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Health Care Reform
BETTER READ THIS !!!!!!
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The Health Care Reform Bill that narrowly passed the House of Representatives is now being considered by the Senate. The following are quoted excerpts from the House version that was sent to the Senate. Read them and it will be crystal clear why President Obama is insisting that the
Senate pass the bill before they leave on a Congressional vacation.
Although he admitted at a White House press conference yesterday on July 22, that he had not "read the bill", it is obvious his advisors are afraid that if the Senators go home before voting on it and the people find out what is really in it, that it will not pass.
These are direct excerpts from the House version ....
Page 22: The federal government will be empowered to audit the books of any corporation that self-insures.
Page 29, Lines 4-16: All health care will be rationed based on age, the present health of any patient and the availability of health services and supplies.
Page 30, Sections 1-3: A government committee will decide what treatments or benefits will be made available under the health care that will be provided. It will be illegal to provide any medical benefits to anyone that haven't been pre-approved by the committee.
Page 42: A Health Choices Commissioner will be appointed by the President and will choose what health services will be provided to each patient.
Page 50, Section 152: Healthcare will be provided to all Non-U.S. citizens within the borders of the United States, illegal or otherwise.
Page 58: The Health Choices Commissioner's Office will have real time access two every medical patient's financial records and all citizens will be issued and be required to have on their person at all times a National ID Health card.
Page 59: (Continuation of Page 58) The Government will have direct access to all bank accounts and electronic transfer accounts of patients.
Page 65, Section 164: Subsidization for retirees of Unions and ACORN
Page 72, Lines 8-14: Brings all health care HMO and private insurance plans under government control.
Page 84: Section 203: All benefit packages for private health care plans will be under the control of the government.
Page 85, Line 7: The Health Choices Commissioner will specify what benefits will be allowable under private health care plans.
Page 95: Community Action Groups (ACORN and Americorps) will be authorized to sign up citizens for the Government Health Care Plan.
Page 102, Lines 12-18: All Medicaid eligible recipients will be automatically enrolled in Medicaid. They will have no choice.
Page 124, Lines 24-25: All government suppliers and contractors are exempt from price fixing lawsuits. "Judicial Review" is prohibited.
Page 126, Lines 22-25: Employers must pay for the health care for any part-time employees AND their families.
Page 127, Lines 1-16: The government will set salaries for all doctors.
Page 145, Lines 15-17: An employee will be required to automatically enroll all employees in the public option plan. The employee will not have any choice in the matter.
Page 149, Lines 16-24: Any employer with a payroll of $400,000 or more who does not provide a public option, will be required to pay the government 8% surtax on the payroll.
Page 150, Lines 9-13: Any employer with a payroll between $251,000 and $400,000 who doesn't provide a public option will be required to pay a 6% surtax on their payroll.
Page 179, Lines 1-3: Any non-resident Alien is EXEMPT from individual health care taxes.
Page 195: All officers and employees of the Health Care administration will have unlimited access to the financial and personal records of ALL American citizens without the necessity of a search warrant.
Page 203, Lines 14-15: (The following is a direct quote!) "The tax imposed under this section shall not be treated as a tax." (Presumably therefore it cannot be deducted on income tax returns)
Page 239, Lines 14-24: The government will reduce physician services for Medicaid, thereby rationing medical support for the poor.
Page 241, Lines 6-8: All doctors will be paid equally, with no regard to specialty of training required.
Page 253, Lines 10-18: The Health Care administration will decide the value of the time of physicians, professional judgment, etc.
Page 265 Section 1131: The Health Care administration will control and mandate productivity for private health care industries, nursing services, hospice, retirement centers, drug production, etc.
Page 268, Section 1141: The Health Care administration will regulate the rental and purchase of power-driven wheelchairs.
Page 272, Section 1145: The Health Care administration will determine what treatment will be provided at Cancer hospitals and will ration treatment based on type and the classification of a patient.
Page 280, Section 1151: The government will penalize hospitals if they exceed their quota of "preventable readmissions."
Page 298, Lines 9-11: If doctors treat a patient during an initial admission that results in a readmission to the hospital, the government will penalize the patient.
Page 317-318, Lines 21-25: The government will be authorized to tell physicians what they can own and how much, and can audit their personal records without a warrant.
Page 317-318, Lines 21-25: Hospitals will not be permitted to expand their physical facilities.
Page 321, Lines 2-13: Hospitals wanting to expand may appeal for an exception to the expansion rule, but community approval is required through community action agencies (ie: ACORN)
Page 341, Lines 3-9: The government has the authority to disqualify Medicare supplemental plans, HMO, private insurance plans, etc., which will force all citizens into the government plan.
Page 354, Section 1177: The government will restrict enrollment of "Special Needs" patients
(ie: Downs Syndrome, Speech Therapy, handicapped, etc.)
Page 379, Section 1191: The government will create a Telehealth Advisory Committee which will provide health advice by phone.
Page 425, Lines 4-12: An "Advance Planning Care Consultant" Department will be created.
Think 'End of Life' for Senior Citizens.
Page 425, Lines 22-25: (Page 426: Lines 1-3): The Government will provide a list of end of life resources that will guide senior citizens to their death.
Page 427, Lines 15-24: The government will mandate orders for end of life actions. In brief, the government will decide how life ends.
Page 429, Lines 1-9: An "Advance Care Planning Consultant" will be used more frequently as a patient's health deteriorates.
Page 429, Lines 10-12: The "Advance Care Planning Consultant" will include the authority for "End of Life" plans, on an order from the government.
Page 429, Lines 13-25: The government will specify which doctors will have the authority to sign an "End of Life" Order.
Page 430, Lines 11-15: The government will decide what level of treatment patients will receive at the end of their lives.
Page 469: Medical services and nursing for home-based patients will be provided by "Community-based organizations." (ACORN, etc.)
Page 472, Lines 14-17: Such community based organizations will be paid by the government once each month based on the number of patients they serve. Such organizations will not be required to employ registered or practical nursing professionals.
Page 489, Section 1308: Marriages and divorces will not be authorized unless the couple subjects themselves to marriage and family therapy.
Page 494-498: All Mental Health Services will be provided by the government including defining, creating, and rationing those services.
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..... Remember .... these are just excerpts from the House version jammed through the House by Speaker Nancy Pelosi (D-CA)
It might be better entitled "Soylent Green - 2009"
or
"The Death Sentence Bill for Grandparents, the infirm, and the Handicapped".
Incidentally, on the front page of the Tulsa World (July 23 issue) the President was quoted as saying in a press conference ......
"This isn't about me. I have great health insurance, and so does every member of Congress."
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The Health Care Reform Bill that narrowly passed the House of Representatives is now being considered by the Senate. The following are quoted excerpts from the House version that was sent to the Senate. Read them and it will be crystal clear why President Obama is insisting that the
Senate pass the bill before they leave on a Congressional vacation.
Although he admitted at a White House press conference yesterday on July 22, that he had not "read the bill", it is obvious his advisors are afraid that if the Senators go home before voting on it and the people find out what is really in it, that it will not pass.
These are direct excerpts from the House version ....
Page 22: The federal government will be empowered to audit the books of any corporation that self-insures.
Page 29, Lines 4-16: All health care will be rationed based on age, the present health of any patient and the availability of health services and supplies.
Page 30, Sections 1-3: A government committee will decide what treatments or benefits will be made available under the health care that will be provided. It will be illegal to provide any medical benefits to anyone that haven't been pre-approved by the committee.
Page 42: A Health Choices Commissioner will be appointed by the President and will choose what health services will be provided to each patient.
Page 50, Section 152: Healthcare will be provided to all Non-U.S. citizens within the borders of the United States, illegal or otherwise.
Page 58: The Health Choices Commissioner's Office will have real time access two every medical patient's financial records and all citizens will be issued and be required to have on their person at all times a National ID Health card.
Page 59: (Continuation of Page 58) The Government will have direct access to all bank accounts and electronic transfer accounts of patients.
Page 65, Section 164: Subsidization for retirees of Unions and ACORN
Page 72, Lines 8-14: Brings all health care HMO and private insurance plans under government control.
Page 84: Section 203: All benefit packages for private health care plans will be under the control of the government.
Page 85, Line 7: The Health Choices Commissioner will specify what benefits will be allowable under private health care plans.
Page 95: Community Action Groups (ACORN and Americorps) will be authorized to sign up citizens for the Government Health Care Plan.
Page 102, Lines 12-18: All Medicaid eligible recipients will be automatically enrolled in Medicaid. They will have no choice.
Page 124, Lines 24-25: All government suppliers and contractors are exempt from price fixing lawsuits. "Judicial Review" is prohibited.
Page 126, Lines 22-25: Employers must pay for the health care for any part-time employees AND their families.
Page 127, Lines 1-16: The government will set salaries for all doctors.
Page 145, Lines 15-17: An employee will be required to automatically enroll all employees in the public option plan. The employee will not have any choice in the matter.
Page 149, Lines 16-24: Any employer with a payroll of $400,000 or more who does not provide a public option, will be required to pay the government 8% surtax on the payroll.
Page 150, Lines 9-13: Any employer with a payroll between $251,000 and $400,000 who doesn't provide a public option will be required to pay a 6% surtax on their payroll.
Page 179, Lines 1-3: Any non-resident Alien is EXEMPT from individual health care taxes.
Page 195: All officers and employees of the Health Care administration will have unlimited access to the financial and personal records of ALL American citizens without the necessity of a search warrant.
Page 203, Lines 14-15: (The following is a direct quote!) "The tax imposed under this section shall not be treated as a tax." (Presumably therefore it cannot be deducted on income tax returns)
Page 239, Lines 14-24: The government will reduce physician services for Medicaid, thereby rationing medical support for the poor.
Page 241, Lines 6-8: All doctors will be paid equally, with no regard to specialty of training required.
Page 253, Lines 10-18: The Health Care administration will decide the value of the time of physicians, professional judgment, etc.
Page 265 Section 1131: The Health Care administration will control and mandate productivity for private health care industries, nursing services, hospice, retirement centers, drug production, etc.
Page 268, Section 1141: The Health Care administration will regulate the rental and purchase of power-driven wheelchairs.
Page 272, Section 1145: The Health Care administration will determine what treatment will be provided at Cancer hospitals and will ration treatment based on type and the classification of a patient.
Page 280, Section 1151: The government will penalize hospitals if they exceed their quota of "preventable readmissions."
Page 298, Lines 9-11: If doctors treat a patient during an initial admission that results in a readmission to the hospital, the government will penalize the patient.
Page 317-318, Lines 21-25: The government will be authorized to tell physicians what they can own and how much, and can audit their personal records without a warrant.
Page 317-318, Lines 21-25: Hospitals will not be permitted to expand their physical facilities.
Page 321, Lines 2-13: Hospitals wanting to expand may appeal for an exception to the expansion rule, but community approval is required through community action agencies (ie: ACORN)
Page 341, Lines 3-9: The government has the authority to disqualify Medicare supplemental plans, HMO, private insurance plans, etc., which will force all citizens into the government plan.
Page 354, Section 1177: The government will restrict enrollment of "Special Needs" patients
(ie: Downs Syndrome, Speech Therapy, handicapped, etc.)
Page 379, Section 1191: The government will create a Telehealth Advisory Committee which will provide health advice by phone.
Page 425, Lines 4-12: An "Advance Planning Care Consultant" Department will be created.
Think 'End of Life' for Senior Citizens.
Page 425, Lines 22-25: (Page 426: Lines 1-3): The Government will provide a list of end of life resources that will guide senior citizens to their death.
Page 427, Lines 15-24: The government will mandate orders for end of life actions. In brief, the government will decide how life ends.
Page 429, Lines 1-9: An "Advance Care Planning Consultant" will be used more frequently as a patient's health deteriorates.
Page 429, Lines 10-12: The "Advance Care Planning Consultant" will include the authority for "End of Life" plans, on an order from the government.
Page 429, Lines 13-25: The government will specify which doctors will have the authority to sign an "End of Life" Order.
Page 430, Lines 11-15: The government will decide what level of treatment patients will receive at the end of their lives.
Page 469: Medical services and nursing for home-based patients will be provided by "Community-based organizations." (ACORN, etc.)
Page 472, Lines 14-17: Such community based organizations will be paid by the government once each month based on the number of patients they serve. Such organizations will not be required to employ registered or practical nursing professionals.
Page 489, Section 1308: Marriages and divorces will not be authorized unless the couple subjects themselves to marriage and family therapy.
Page 494-498: All Mental Health Services will be provided by the government including defining, creating, and rationing those services.
*******************************************************************************************************************
..... Remember .... these are just excerpts from the House version jammed through the House by Speaker Nancy Pelosi (D-CA)
It might be better entitled "Soylent Green - 2009"
or
"The Death Sentence Bill for Grandparents, the infirm, and the Handicapped".
Incidentally, on the front page of the Tulsa World (July 23 issue) the President was quoted as saying in a press conference ......
"This isn't about me. I have great health insurance, and so does every member of Congress."
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Permalink Reply by Peaches on
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Well, I live in Texas and our Govenor has suggested that if this bill goes through that we refuse to participate by using our states rights.
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Permalink Reply by darroll on
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It will be just like the company retirement programs. Most of the companies canceled the plans and told you to get a 401k. Some people aren’t savvy enough in the investment ways and lost their butts..
Health care will be the same. Buy your own healthcare or let the government supply it for you.
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Permalink Reply by cynthia Hunter on
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US marine points out at a town hall meeting that national health care is against the constitution. So if it make it past it will end up before the supreme court.
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Permalink Reply by P.A. on
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I hope none of you end up sick with no insurance or a "pre-existing" condition. You might change your mind about some things then.
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Your insurance company does this now. My wife died three years ago, we had excellent insurance, because the insurance company would not pay to continue her cemotherapy and we could only affored a few treatments. what could be worse?
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Pickleallen, don't get me wrong about all of this. I do believe we need to reform our system, but why can't these companies involved with our care do it between themselves? Why must the gov't get involved?
Then again, I remember my ex-husband having to let go of an employee, because he had cancer and was missing too much work. Also that his insurance was a burden for the company.
This type of treatment needs to stop, but under obama's system it may also be decided by the healthcare team when treatment will end.
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you need to read the all proposed bills and yes there are several. What you posted here is a list of things form drafts that have not been even considered. All the President wants to do is stop the abuses by the insurance companies and offer a government plan as an alternative that you could take or leave. Where do the think the money to fight this is comong from? YOUR insurance premiums thats where.
Government must get involved because the insurance companies will not do it otherwise.
Many of the things you have sited as parts of the bill, which doesn't even exist yet, are Republican talking points not actually written any where in any proposed bill
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You will notice that there is no number after the H.R. meaning it is not even a bill yet just a proposal. All actual bills have a number.
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Permalink Reply by KBeenThere on
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Other side looking in. Someone has to do SOMETHING.Start here and adjust..
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