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it seems that everytime you turn on the news the last couple of weeks all we hear about is ebola .. on the one hand these talkin head expert doctors are tellin us not to worry and that ebola has never collided with modern medicine .. and on the other they're gettin ready to shut down airports and evacuate a whole apartment complex because one case has shown up here in the usa .. don't get me wrong here i think an ounce of prevention is worth a pound of cure but does it seem like they're goin overboard just a little if these experts are sayin its nothin to worry about ?? or ,, do you think the media is fuelin this mass hysteria ?? who's closer to the truth ?? there's also the guy who actually had ebola to consider .. this guy did show up at the hospital and they turned him away .. 3 days later they admitted him tryin to say he knew he had ebola and how they were gonna prosecute him for lyin on his entrance visa .. i have no idea if he lied or not but here's the guy in the hospital fightin for his very life and all i can ask is do you think this guy cares at this point if you're gonna prosecute him somehow ?? he had a lot more on his plate to worry about .. and while nobody is really sayin so does anybody think if they admitted him when he first came to the hospital he might still be alive now ?? ya think the hospital might be negligent just a little here ??  

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and you can't stop the spread while quarantines aren't observed either there or here


Some families affected by Ebola in Liberia pay bribes to keep the bodies


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A doctor outside the JFK Ebola treatment center speaks to journalists on October 13, 2014 in Monrovia, Liberia. (Getty Images/John Moore)

Health workers scrambling to contain the deadly Ebola virus in Liberia now have to contend with an outbreak of corruption among those detailed to collect the bodies of victims.

The Wall Street Journal reports that retrieval teams are accepting bribes from families of Ebola victims to issue death certificates that say their loved ones died of other causes, allowing them to keep their bodies for a traditional burial.

“The family says the person is not an Ebola patient, and [the retrieval team] pull them away from the other people," Vincent Chounse, a community outreach worker on the outskirts of Monrovia, told the paper. "Then they say, ‘We can give you a certificate from the Ministry of Health that it wasn’t Ebola.' Sometimes it is $40. Sometimes it is $50. ... Then they offer bags to them and [the family] carry on their own thing.” A teenager in Montserrado told the Journal he saw the father of his neighbor pay $150 for a certificate that said his son's corpse was Ebola-free.

Government Information Minister Lewis Brown told the paper his office has received reports of health workers issuing fake death certificates, but he added that no burial team has "a capacity to go and issue certificates."

According to the World Health Organization, more than 4,000 Ebola cases have been reported in Liberia, resulting in 2,316 deaths since the outbreak began.

But local health officials say the numbers are not adding up.

“We are not receiving the amount of community calls that we should be,” Agnes “Cokie” van der Velde, who oversees body collection teams for Doctors Without Borders, told the paper.

The grim task of removing bodies infected with Ebola is critical, health officials say, because the dead are a major source of contagion.

Working against them is the stigma associated with Ebola among West Africans, and the desire for the family to have a traditional burial. Often, communities will assume that one person infected with the disease means his or her entire family is infected and therefore is discriminated against and shunned.

Van der Velde said while she was not aware of body retrieval teams accepting bribes, they are nonetheless in a tricky position. “We try to be very respectful, but in the end what we’re doing is taking their loved one, zipping them in a bag and taking them away."

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I like Sheppard Smith on Fox.  He makes sense. Today he asked his team if they got their flu shots.  Out of ten people, only three did.  He said last year 53,000 people died in the US because of the flu, yet we don't panic and run to get our shots.  He put this in perspective re Ebola.  He said ONE man had it, and now a nurse, and we are all panicking. So, that gives me something to think about.

I think it is pretty scary stuff.  I think the whole idea of an infectious disease is a frightening concept.  And I believe it is right for this country to take necessary precautions, sending help to battle the outbreak in the countries of origin, checking airline passengers from infected areas for symptoms, quarantine for those that have been in contract with the virus, heightened vigilance and awareness across all sectors, additional training and preparedness in the public health industry.  But I don't believe that individuals need to be overly concerned or see the bogey man around every corner or conspiracy and deceit in every action taken by the government or the CDC.  Too many Hollywood movies have dramatized these kinds of events that rarely pan out in real life to the level portrayed in the movies.  Could it happen, certainly.  But as long as we are vigilant, stay informed of the facts, not just the hype and use some common sense, I believe the damage that could occur will be minimized.   The media hype and over reaction to this virus is reminding me of the initial outbreak of the AIDs virus.  The same doomsday predictions, the spread of fear, the sensationalizing of the stories. etc.  A very different virus, but similar reactions.  My hope with E-bola is that we will be able to do a better job of stopping it at our doorstep and minimize the spread of the horrible virus. 

A second health care worker in Dallas has it now.  I think there will be more...

they are sooooooo not ready for this .. 

and on another continent over in africa people are payin the coroners to make fake death certificates that say their loved ones died from somethin other than ebola so they can have the bodies for a regular funeral.. problem with this thinkin is they don't think the body is contagious once they're dead .. and its just the opposite .. in fact some think if you kiss a dead body that died from ebola it will keep the bad ju ju away from you and make you immune.. 

so knowin what we know now how many here think that everybody we send over to help with this crisis will come back ebola free ?? how many troops are we sendin ?? 30000 was it ?? if two nurses got it here from just one person and they're supposed to have been trained on what not to do .. and trained better than a soldier i'd like to think , how many soldiers will get it if they're surrounded by it and they have no quarantine place to really go over there .. well .. they are buildin some .. better they build a shitload more for our troops..they're gonna need em..   

The second nurse who's now tested positive for the ebola virus decided it would be a great idea to fly home to see her family in north eastern Ohio (not too far from us here in southeastern Michigan). When she boarded the plane to go back to Dallas, she had a low grade fever. Hmmm. Now everyone who flew on those Frontier airlines flights she was on are probably messing their drawers. I sure as hell know I would be. I do think it's dangerous and to be totally honest, it scares the hell out of me. I'm hoping this isn't Captain Trips. 

Like the Stephen King reference. Captain Trips was air bourn and Ebola is not. A little common sense and caution would mean the end of this out break. However common sense is not abundant now days, ie the nurse getting on a plane not once but twice. Also nobody told her not to. It also seems having Ebola in Texas doesn't turn out as well as in Atlanta and Nebraska.

you have to understand texas.....this is a headline because the cdc did not tell her she can't fly...

CNN report says the CDC told the second nurse it was okay to fly

you never told me NOT to eat all the cookies mommy...as tho registered nurses aren't taught the parameters of isolation and quarantine...

One Ebola specialist says the testing they're doing is showing there is far more virus in the victim's blood than usual and he's very concerned that the virus may go airborn as it seems to be doing things they're not used to seeing. If that happens we're in trouble as the jokers running the show don't seem concerned enough to shut down the borders or at least take better precautions although I guess it may be too late for that. Hopefully it burns itself out without too many deaths, which that Dr also says is a possibility due to how 'hot' (his words) the virus is running.

accordin to one nurse who works at the dallas hospital they are makin this up as they go along .. one day its don't do it like this and 6 hours later its yes do it like this.. a shitload of confusion goin on there.. don't get me wrong tho cause i'm not makin fun or critisizin .. this is serious business .. it just seems that everybody is on a different page as to what is the right thing to do .. which is why they shipped nurse number two to atlanta ..they are soooo not prepared for this ...     

The nominee for Surgeon General, Dr. Vivek Murthy, has been waiting for the Senate to confirm his appointment since November 2013, yet some of the Senators blocking the appointment are complaining about a slow response on the Ebola issue.

yeah shadow .. right on .. i'm not sayin that a surgeon general would make a big difference here but you'd think it should .. now obama wants to appoint an ebola czar .. ehh .. that might help .. thru all  this i don't think the head of the cdc is gonna be around too much longer ..   

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