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ebola !! how bad do you think this really is ??
it seems that everytime you turn on the news the last couple of weeks all we hear about is ebola .. on the one hand these talkin head expert doctors are tellin us not to worry and that ebola has never collided with modern medicine .. and on the other they're gettin ready to shut down airports and evacuate a whole apartment complex because one case has shown up here in the usa .. don't get me wrong here i think an ounce of prevention is worth a pound of cure but does it seem like they're goin overboard just a little if these experts are sayin its nothin to worry about ?? or ,, do you think the media is fuelin this mass hysteria ?? who's closer to the truth ?? there's also the guy who actually had ebola to consider .. this guy did show up at the hospital and they turned him away .. 3 days later they admitted him tryin to say he knew he had ebola and how they were gonna prosecute him for lyin on his entrance visa .. i have no idea if he lied or not but here's the guy in the hospital fightin for his very life and all i can ask is do you think this guy cares at this point if you're gonna prosecute him somehow ?? he had a lot more on his plate to worry about .. and while nobody is really sayin so does anybody think if they admitted him when he first came to the hospital he might still be alive now ?? ya think the hospital might be negligent just a little here ??
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Permalink Reply by ProblemAgain on
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for the facts, you can watch this edition of Nova.
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Permalink Reply by Wayne Goodwin on
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I think it will get worst .
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Permalink Reply by crestofwaves on
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I read the book Hot Zone and for me , this is a scary situation. REmember the Spanish influenza? the bubonic plague? It could be mother nature decreasing the population as she likes to do every so often. I also think the hospital was very negligent, but not because the guy was black,which is the case being made. so sick of the racial crap. It's turning me racist.
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Permalink Reply by frenchy on
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yeah i think you might be right cresty .. every 100 years or so somethin comes along that we just can't handle .. and this very well could be it .. i thought it was gonna be the avian flu for awhile but that hasn't materialized .. yet .. time will tell .. and i hear you about it bein a black thing too .. i wouldn't be surprised if they didn't hire crump and co . already on those very grounds .. but i don't think its a black thing .. biased yes .. if his name was rockefeller or vanderbilt or gates or buffet they would have never turned him away .. there's all kinds of biased .. age biased .. you wouldn't bring your grandma to a cool skinny dippin party when you're 19 .. and you don't invite your gardner to join the ritzy elite country club so he can rub elbows with all the rich people .. if they persue the poor biased approach i'd say they have a chance .. i suppose they could throw in that he was black too but if he was michael jordan it probably wouldn't fly ..
and problem why not give me your opinion .. at this point i think i've seen about as much as i want to see about ebola for awhile .. do they really tell you anything that we don't already hear from all these talkin heads every hour on the hour ??
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so now a nurse who's supposed to be trained in how not to catch ebola has caught ebola.. and i saw the news crews sprayin somethin outside her house and on her sidewalk . as if this ebola is some kinda germ thats radioactive or somethin .. they say you can't catch it except by blood sweat and tears .. and oh yeah spooge too .. the sweat and tears is pretty remote . it only lasts about 2 hours on any kinda surfaces .. blood is a couple of days .. and spooge can be up to 3 months after you're cured even .. eeee.. and it sounds like they're already anglin for some kinda lawsuit against the hospital for that duncan guy who died ..so if its not that contagious why are they in such high alert .. are we missin somethin here ?? i know what they're sayin .. but is what they're sayin the whole truth ??
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Permalink Reply by Shadowman on
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But to put it in perspective, about 2 people a year killed by bears, 2 by cougar, less than one per year by shark in the U.S., about 35,000 by vehicles per year, and about 500,000 still die from smoking related issues per year. Curiously those last two that are the biggest hardly even make the news. I would not worry about Ebola, especially if you are jaywalking while smoking a cigarette. Panic when appropriate, but only after everyone else is done so it can be done calmly and deliberatively. And don't give in to excessive sex, eating, and drinking just because the end time is upon us (like some of those folk during the Dark Ages Bubonic and Pneumonic Plague).
Maybe humans have finally reached that point like bacteria growing in a petri dish that have used up the nutrients and have toxicified their environment. No species lasts forever.
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my opinion is pretty simple...the news media is sensationalizing it now that the advent of encroaching population and air travel has brought a disease from the backbush of africa to the first world. the disease was only 'discovered' in 1976. it is likely a more accurate term to say it was identified. there are a number of other hemorrhagic diseases in addition to ebola. but anyway the poor nurse in dallas probably breached the safety protocols by some manner similar to the spanish nurse who unconsciosly touched her face as she was removing the protective gear. all the hooplah about blocking flights from africa fails to address the fact that the original person who brought ebola in flew from brussels. step back and consider that ebola is not that contagious. statistically a new case of ebola leads to 2 more cases. as a comparison, measles has a 1 to 10 ratio. and so far the odds of you catching ebola in this country are about 320 million to one
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well its 320 million to one ... so far... i got a feelin that ratio will change .. and not go down .. panic tho ?? no i'm not gonna panic .. shadow is right about the cars and smokin .. and we've learned to live with them numbers .. like it or not what can we do about em anyway .. i quit smokin a long time ago but some will only when they die .. traffic accidents is another story .. we are a highly mobile society .. none of that backroads goin 35 mph for us .. we got all these interstates where the average speed limit is 70mph .. ( not legally tho mind you but who really goes the limit anyway ?? ) and ebola can get to a lot of places goin at an average of 70 mph .. well maybe not quite that fast at first .. but if it gets goin you have to consider that it can go 70 mph in opposite directions at the same time .. which would be 140 mph .. and thats not even considerin planes and trains which can go a lot faster and carry a lot more people confined in a tight spot .. who will all go in different directions when they reach their destination carryin that ebola with em .. maybe they'll keep this contained like they say they can ?? or maybe not .. all i can say is if they don't and they lose the handle on this its gonna get real ugly ..
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I used to be a speed demon till I bought my truck . I was so proud of it . Still am even if I just have to look at it ...
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I find it frightening that "they" call Thomas Duncan "Patient zero." It sounds like a line from an apocalyptic movie where the world ends--would make an excellent title to such a book.
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and what a total fucking asshole.....
NBC News’ Dr. Nancy Snyderman Apologizes for Violating Ebola Quarantine
Variety
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Dr. Nancy Snyderman, NBC News’ chief medical correspondent, issued a statement on Monday addressing her violation of a voluntary Ebola quarantine after she covered the deadly virus in Liberia.
Snyderman garnered heavy criticism after she and two of her crew members, all three of whom were under a 21-day quarantine, were spotted at a New Jersey restaurant. Brian Williams read the statement regarding the violation on Monday’s broadcast.
“While under voluntary quarantine guidelines, which called for our team to avoid public contact for 21 days, members of our group violated those guidelines and understand that our quarantine is now mandatory until 21 days have passed. We remain healthy and our temperatures are normal,” the statement said.
“As a health professional I know that we have no symptoms and pose no risk to the public, but I am deeply sorry for the concerns this episode caused. We are thrilled that Ashoka [Mukpo] is getting better and our thoughts continue to be with the thousands affected by Ebola whose stories we all went to cover.”
According to reports, Snyderman’s two crew members were spotted getting food at the Peasant Grill near Princeton University while the medical correspondent stayed in the car in the parking lot.
Earlier this month, it was revealed that, while on the Liberia trip, 33-year-old freelance NBC cameraman Mukpo was diagnosed with Ebola.
According to Snyderman’s statement, however, crew members in question have shown no symptoms. She and the crew members were placed under the 21-day quarantine by the New Jersey Department of Health on Oct. 11.
Mukpo posted an update of his condition on Monday as well, saying he feels he’s “on the road to good health.”
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