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Is the left so blinkered to Islamic extremism?
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Permalink Reply by ProblemAgain on
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i doubt the religious right can see the forest for the trees....an example? how bout the abortion bill in texas which was a thinly veiled attempt to outlaw abortions as entirely as possible by heaping regulations on clinics which would cause 37 of 42 clinics in the entire state to close?
how bout this: an actual Rick Santorum quote: “One of the things I will talk about, that no president has talked about before, is I think the dangers of contraception in this country.” And also, “Many of the Christian faith have said, well, that’s okay, contraception is okay. It’s not okay. It’s a license to do things in a sexual realm that is counter to how things are supposed to be.”...
or we can go on about voter id...how bout the gerrymandered voting districts that ensure republican victories by parsing out the demographics of an area to guarantee each district has as much as possible a white conservative majority?
i fail to see any difference between the fundamentalism of islam or christian when it comes to respecting the rights of others. both are enemies of any and all forms of democracy because they want a theocracy in place superior to the political process and the constituted government. my personal preference would be to put both sides on a desert island with no means of communication or departure and sail away...let them fight it out...and we can come back in a few years and bury them with a fucking backhoe...
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Permalink Reply by LoveLife&Laughter on
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I have never used a condom. I guess I would if I was worried about fucking a goat.
Is that what Santorum is talking about?
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Permalink Reply by Woody Woods on
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This is the way it's been through out history. Religion against religion. Many many wars were fought because of religion. And this is why I don't belong to any religious group today....even though I grew up in the Baptist church. None of this ever made sense to me. When I returned from Vietnam I tried different religions...Catholic, Muslim, Baptist, Methodist even Judaism. And each one proclaimed to be the TRUE one...and there were certain restrictions you had to abide by. Sooooo.....it was then when I decided to just live my life the best way I knew how....treat people with respect and leave all that religious stuff to other people....lol. And when I look at the religious right I see a lot of hypocrisy...as I do in other religions. Hypocrisy when it comes to women, marriage, sex, race....in just about most things that have to do with how you live your life. It's their way or the highway. Today I see religion as a way of controlling people and the way they think. If you don't think their way, you're going to hell. I do believe in God, but I do not and will not tell anyone that my way is the only way. And if a person doesn't believe in God, but lives a good life and treats people with respect and honesty, I can see that person as a good person. As a matter of fact I have a couple of friends who are Atheist and I trust them more than I do a religious person. And their marriages seem to be happier and more successful than many who consider themselves 'Christian'....lol. The term 'Religious Freedom' also doesn't seem to resonate with the religious right. They may repeat those words, but in action....I don't see them abiding by those words..............Just my opinion.
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Permalink Reply by P.A. on
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Extremism about anything for any reason only leads to trouble. That is one of the reasons I am a moderate.
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“Mark my word, if and when these preachers get control of the [Republican] party, and they’re sure trying to do so, it’s going to be a terrible damn problem. Frankly, these people frighten me. Politics and governing demand compromise. But these Christians believe they are acting in the name of God, so they can’t and won’t compromise. I know, I’ve tried to deal with them.”
~Barry Goldwater -
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“On religious issues there can be little or no compromise. There is no position on which people are so immovable as their religious beliefs. There is no more powerful ally one can claim in a debate than Jesus Christ, or God, or Allah, or whatever one calls this supreme being. But like any powerful weapon, the use of God’s name on one’s behalf should be used sparingly. The religious factions that are growing throughout our land are not using their religious clout with wisdom. They are trying to force government leaders into following their position 100 percent. If you disagree with these religious groups on a particular moral issue, they complain, they threaten you with a loss of money or votes or both.
I’m frankly sick and tired of the political preachers across this country telling me as a citizen that if I want to be a moral person, I must believe in “A,” “B,” “C” and “D.” Just who do they think they are? And from where do they presume to claim the right to dictate their moral beliefs to me?
And I am even more angry as a legislator who must endure the threats of every religious group who thinks it has some God-granted right to control my vote on every roll call in the Senate. I am warning them today: I will fight them every step of the way if they try to dictate their moral convictions to all Americans in the name of “conservatism.”
~Barry Goldwater -
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Ole Barry was on to something.......lol.
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We all know Jerry Falwell and Pat Robertson as Christian right-wing fanatics who have a stranglehold over the Republican Party. But Barry Goldwater never ever subscribed to their thirst to combine God and government. He considered such a movement an abomination and despised both Falwell and Robertson to the core. In a 1994 interview with the Washington Post the retired senator said,
“When you say “radical right” today, I think of these moneymaking ventures by fellows like Pat Robertson and others who are trying to take the Republican Party and make a religious organization out of it. If that ever happens, kiss politics goodbye.” In response to Moral Majority founder Jerry Falwell’s opposition to the nomination of Sandra Day O’Connor to the Supreme Court, of which Falwell had said, “Every good Christian should be concerned”, Goldwater retorted: “Every good Christian ought to kick Falwell right in the ass.”
These two examples clearly show how much Goldwater disapproved of the growing influence of the Christian Right. Goldwater went even further than that, however. A few years before his death he went so far as to address the unprincipled establishment Republicans, “Do not associate my name with anything you do. You are extremists, and you’ve hurt the Republican party much more than the Democrats have.”
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Unfortunately the Republican Party, like a dying rattlesnake, are still dangerous to the unwitting.
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A very wise man told me back in the seventies when the Cold War was still ragging, " it is not the communists we need to worry about, it is the damned Baptist".
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