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The NRA has Friends! Ha-ha! Yes they do . . .
Hey everyone. This seems kinda strange, I mean, I dunno. Maybe it’s not. Maybe it’s just normal and I don’t know what normal really looks like. Ha-ha! Ya. It’s possible. Maybe I don’t. So I dunno. You tell me what you think.
Well, did you hear about the letter I sent off to the NRA? I did, I sent them a letter protesting the protesters in Arizona who showed up outside a hall where the President was speaking. It seems they showed up armed to the teeth, and that just doesn’t seem right to me so I did, I sent a letter - ya-ya, I sent a letter, to their dad . . . ha-ha! EeYah. Well, something like that. I mean, you know every one of them who showed up at a protest In Arizona – with their guns are all NRA members in good standing, right? I mean, they could hardly be anything else, could they?
So I did, I sent a letter to the NRA. Here, see for yourself:
Date: Tue, 18 Aug 2009 21:15:30 -0400
Message-ID: <605879fc0908181815q2971f4eadq5e1a0c002efcb2ca2b@mail.gmail.com>
Subject: Protest Rally in Arizona
From: david winter <2youknow@gmail.com>
To: nraprogrammaterials@nrahq.org
I am writing out of concern over the appearance of weapons at a
protest rally in Arizona. I find that very disturbing. Firearms have
no place at the picket line. That's my opinion.
I'll stand by that opinion.
I own a weapon or two myself. So here's a plan. Why don't you network
with some more of your members, and get a rally going here in Vermont
- say outside one of Bernie Sanders events or something. You can get
your friends to bring their arms and stand on one side.
I'll be standing with mine on the other.
AND THE FIRST MOTHER FUCKER I HEAR SAY KILL THAT NIGGER OBAMA
AND HIS KIDS WILL MOST CERTAINLY GET ME FOAMING AT THE MOUTH.
THAT WILL BE THE SIGNAL - ME FOAMING.
MY FRIENDS AROUND THE CORNER WILL LIGHT OFF SOME M-80S
WHEN THE SMOKE CLEARS WE'LL SEE WHO'S LEFT STANDING
Most sincerely and respectfully yours . . .
D. Winter
http://zendogblog.net
I did, I sent that to the NRA. Now, before you jump on my back for picking on the NRA - he-hee! EeYah, lets keep in mind, these people have guns -- so I’m sure they can stand up for themselves. Ha-ha! Eeyah.
And besides, if the appearance of weapons at protest events becomes common place, it seems inevitable that someone will spark a shoot out, won’t they? Sure they will, if only to discredit one side or the other of whatever debate it is that draws the protest. I mean, what better way to end an argument than to paint the opposition as a bunch of crazed and murderous thugs.
Sure.
Which in turn will bring up a whole new discussion, and that is the issue of gun rights, which will hardly be defensible in the face of shoot-outs and bloodshed as Americans exercise their right to assemble and to speak out on some public issue. So really, in a way, you can say I did the NRA a favor -- don’t you think so?
Sure. I think so. And honestly, I really hadn’t heard the Black Panthers had done something similar not long ago, or I would have said something about it at the time, honest, I would have. I just hadn’t heard. I mean, I thought those guys were all still in jail, hoping for parole. I mean really. They are all black guys, aren’t they? So now I have to wonder just who is asking themselves Now which stupid white guy let them out? I mean, really. 30 years is long enough isn’t it? Ha-ha! Eeyah. Should be. I mean, if it were a white guy it would be, wouldn’t it? He-hee! Eeyah, of course it would, and you know they would be out by now.
Anywayz, now I’ve gotten sidetracked. It’s a shame how that happens, isn’t it? Where was I . . .
Oh yeah. The NRA.
Well. It seems they’ve had a response. Ha-ha! Ah-eeyah, they have. Well, not the NRA themselves, but you know, some of their right leaning friends. It’s complicated, but let me show you what I mean.
It seems that here in Vermont we actually have our own bunch of militant zealots. Sure. Only nobody knew. I sent the letter to the NRA on Tuesday last week, and on Friday WCAX ran a spot on the news about a group up in Craftsbury, Vermont, who are apparently intimidating all their neighbors with guns and dogs and stuff.
The group calls themselves Mission New England, and they have what they call a church on 270 some acres of land on a town road that the town hasn’t kept up in years. The road must be what we call up here a Class IV road, and basically what that means is that the town owns it, it’s a public right of way and everyone should think of it as a trail; but because it hasn’t been maintained, the people who live on it tend to think they own it. We have quite a few of them around the state and they have been the subject of debate from time to time.
So about six weeks ago some trail riders on their ATVs had a little run in with these guys from Mission New England. Nobody got hurt or anything, but you know, the Mission New England people clearly sent the message – We don’t want company. Ha-ha. Eeyeah, they did.
So I don’t know. The issue is six weeks old, and I can’t say when Brian Joyce decided to take a WCAX camera man with him and head up there to perform his own test. But he did, and the Mission New England people ran him off with dogs. And for whatever reason the whole thing gets aired on Friday last week, three days after I sent out my letter to the NRA.
So yeah. I figure hm. Must be I’m supposed to head right up there, foaming at the mouth, and feed the dogs my arm or something. Ha-ha! Eeyeah. Well. I have to admit. The idea is tempting. I mean, hey. I’d love to own 270 acres of land up there. Ha-ha! Eeyeah. I would. On the other hand - ha-ha! Yeah, it seems I am rather attached to my arm . . .
Ha-ha! Eeyeah, Yes I am. I am rather attached to my arm, aren’t I. Sure I am. Aren’t you?
WCAX posted the article online, and you can find it here:
http://www.wcax.com/Global/story.asp?S=10972494
So anywayz, that got me thinking, and I googled Mission New England. Not much came up that was relevant, and I found that rather interesting. But according to WCAX the guy who runs the group has a gun shop in Morrisville, and I found that on the web easy enough.
So what does that mean? Well, I guess it means it isn’t just a religious group, is it. No-no. They’re selling arms too. Yeah-ya. And I thought, well, Jeez, that’s a new twist on arms dealing. Isn’t it? Ha-ha, of course it is. These guys have a federal firearms license. That means the ATF already knows all about them. And apparently they aren’t worried that a few acts of intimidation are likely to result in their licesnse getting pulled, are they. Apparently not, because according to the article they run everybody off the property they don’t like, including town officials.
So yeah. It got me thinking. And as I looked over their little network of affiliated web pages, I noticed that John’s Gun Shop on the web is affiliated with a JRH enterprises out of West Green, GA. And they are selling a lot of the same stuff. So I’m thinking it goes something like this:
John was down that way, selling arms to the left overs of Ollie North’s crew who shipped them to the right wing militias in Columbia, and when that dried up he and his crew moved up this way. Sure. Now they are selling to the Indians on both sides of the border up here, just in case, you know. Just in case they need to do a fund raiser or tweak the Patriot Act or something, you know.
And then I found the page with their Biblical interpretations and it became clear. Sure. It’s all in the iconography.
http://www.nocompromisemusic.org/
"You Are the One!"
Love songs from ordinary people to an extraordinary God
You are the one . . . ha-ha! Eeyeah, they think life really is the Matrix and they are still looking for Neo . .. Ha-ha! Ee-yeah. And I bet you think I’m kidding . . .
And no compromise . . . that is the neo-conservative line of thinking right there, isn’t it? Of course it is, but wait. Just wait. Let me dig just a little deeper . . .
Do you remember reports indicating that Pentagon briefings to President Bush came with their own biblical quotations? In case you missed it, here are a pair of quotes, you know, just to keep you up to speed on this whole thing:
=============================
http://www.politicsdaily.com/2009/05/18/bush-admin-intel-reports-co...
From Denise Williams, at Politics Daily
May 18, 2009
"These cover sheets were the brainchild of Major General Glen Shaffer, a director for intelligence serving both the Joint Chiefs of Staff and the secretary of defense. In the days before the Iraq war, Shaffer's staff had created humorous covers in an attempt to alleviate the stress of preparing for battle . . . When colleagues complained to Shaffer that including a religious message with an intelligence briefing seemed inappropriate, Shaffer politely informed them that the practice would continue, because "my seniors"-JCS chairman Richard Myers, Rumsfeld, and the commander in chief himself-appreciated the cover pages."
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http://www.nytimes.com/2009/05/17/opinion/17rich-5.html?_r=1
OP-ED COLUMNIST
Obama Can’t Turn the Page on Bush
By FRANK RICH
Published: May 16, 2009
Draper’s biggest find is a collection of daily cover sheets that Rumsfeld approved for the Secretary of Defense Worldwide Intelligence Update, a highly classified digest prepared for a tiny audience, including the president, and often delivered by hand to the White House by the defense secretary himself. These cover sheets greeted Bush each day with triumphal color photos of the war headlined by biblical quotations. GQ is posting 11 of them, and they are seriously creepy.
. . .
On April 2, Gen. Joseph Hoar, the commander in chief of the United States Central Command from 1991-94, had declared on the Times Op-Ed page that Rumsfeld had sent too few troops to Iraq. And so the Worldwide Intelligence Update for April 3 bullied Bush with Joshua 1:9: “Have I not commanded you? Be strong and courageous. Do not be terrified; do not be discouraged, for the LORD your God will be with you wherever you go.” (Including, as it happened, into a quagmire.)
. . . .
If the Obama administration really wants to move on from the dark Bush era, it will need a new commission, backed up by serious law enforcement, to shed light on where every body is buried.
==================================================
So yeah, keep that in mind, and then note, that on the following page I found a narrative of this guy having had a visionary experience followed by a biblical quote, ending with this summation:
http://www.jesusfirst.org/current_issues/apost_proph/war.html
It is now January 1999, two years since this I experienced this vision. The time has now come—
Prepare for war!
So, you know. It’s obvious, isn’t it? Sure, he’s deep in the neo-conservative movement and up to his neck in having helped shape our incursion into Iraq. Only he’s been so deep under cover all these years he’s kinda forgotten that it’s just a script and now he’s living his cover identity 24-7, and the neighbors are getting kinda nervous. Ha-ha. Eeyeah. Of course they are. Well, why wouldn’t they. They never planned on finding a right wing, religious survivalist cult hiding out in the back woods setting up a safe house for Dick Cheney, did they?
Ha-ha! It’s crazy! That’s what it is! Just Plain Cr4zy!
Well, did you hear about the letter I sent off to the NRA? I did, I sent them a letter protesting the protesters in Arizona who showed up outside a hall where the President was speaking. It seems they showed up armed to the teeth, and that just doesn’t seem right to me so I did, I sent a letter - ya-ya, I sent a letter, to their dad . . . ha-ha! EeYah. Well, something like that. I mean, you know every one of them who showed up at a protest In Arizona – with their guns are all NRA members in good standing, right? I mean, they could hardly be anything else, could they?
So I did, I sent a letter to the NRA. Here, see for yourself:
Date: Tue, 18 Aug 2009 21:15:30 -0400
Message-ID: <605879fc0908181815q2971f4eadq5e1a0c002efcb2ca2b@mail.gmail.com>
Subject: Protest Rally in Arizona
From: david winter <2youknow@gmail.com>
To: nraprogrammaterials@nrahq.org
I am writing out of concern over the appearance of weapons at a
protest rally in Arizona. I find that very disturbing. Firearms have
no place at the picket line. That's my opinion.
I'll stand by that opinion.
I own a weapon or two myself. So here's a plan. Why don't you network
with some more of your members, and get a rally going here in Vermont
- say outside one of Bernie Sanders events or something. You can get
your friends to bring their arms and stand on one side.
I'll be standing with mine on the other.
AND THE FIRST MOTHER FUCKER I HEAR SAY KILL THAT NIGGER OBAMA
AND HIS KIDS WILL MOST CERTAINLY GET ME FOAMING AT THE MOUTH.
THAT WILL BE THE SIGNAL - ME FOAMING.
MY FRIENDS AROUND THE CORNER WILL LIGHT OFF SOME M-80S
WHEN THE SMOKE CLEARS WE'LL SEE WHO'S LEFT STANDING
Most sincerely and respectfully yours . . .
D. Winter
http://zendogblog.net
I did, I sent that to the NRA. Now, before you jump on my back for picking on the NRA - he-hee! EeYah, lets keep in mind, these people have guns -- so I’m sure they can stand up for themselves. Ha-ha! Eeyah.
And besides, if the appearance of weapons at protest events becomes common place, it seems inevitable that someone will spark a shoot out, won’t they? Sure they will, if only to discredit one side or the other of whatever debate it is that draws the protest. I mean, what better way to end an argument than to paint the opposition as a bunch of crazed and murderous thugs.
Sure.
Which in turn will bring up a whole new discussion, and that is the issue of gun rights, which will hardly be defensible in the face of shoot-outs and bloodshed as Americans exercise their right to assemble and to speak out on some public issue. So really, in a way, you can say I did the NRA a favor -- don’t you think so?
Sure. I think so. And honestly, I really hadn’t heard the Black Panthers had done something similar not long ago, or I would have said something about it at the time, honest, I would have. I just hadn’t heard. I mean, I thought those guys were all still in jail, hoping for parole. I mean really. They are all black guys, aren’t they? So now I have to wonder just who is asking themselves Now which stupid white guy let them out? I mean, really. 30 years is long enough isn’t it? Ha-ha! Eeyah. Should be. I mean, if it were a white guy it would be, wouldn’t it? He-hee! Eeyah, of course it would, and you know they would be out by now.
Anywayz, now I’ve gotten sidetracked. It’s a shame how that happens, isn’t it? Where was I . . .
Oh yeah. The NRA.
Well. It seems they’ve had a response. Ha-ha! Ah-eeyah, they have. Well, not the NRA themselves, but you know, some of their right leaning friends. It’s complicated, but let me show you what I mean.
It seems that here in Vermont we actually have our own bunch of militant zealots. Sure. Only nobody knew. I sent the letter to the NRA on Tuesday last week, and on Friday WCAX ran a spot on the news about a group up in Craftsbury, Vermont, who are apparently intimidating all their neighbors with guns and dogs and stuff.
The group calls themselves Mission New England, and they have what they call a church on 270 some acres of land on a town road that the town hasn’t kept up in years. The road must be what we call up here a Class IV road, and basically what that means is that the town owns it, it’s a public right of way and everyone should think of it as a trail; but because it hasn’t been maintained, the people who live on it tend to think they own it. We have quite a few of them around the state and they have been the subject of debate from time to time.
So about six weeks ago some trail riders on their ATVs had a little run in with these guys from Mission New England. Nobody got hurt or anything, but you know, the Mission New England people clearly sent the message – We don’t want company. Ha-ha. Eeyeah, they did.
So I don’t know. The issue is six weeks old, and I can’t say when Brian Joyce decided to take a WCAX camera man with him and head up there to perform his own test. But he did, and the Mission New England people ran him off with dogs. And for whatever reason the whole thing gets aired on Friday last week, three days after I sent out my letter to the NRA.
So yeah. I figure hm. Must be I’m supposed to head right up there, foaming at the mouth, and feed the dogs my arm or something. Ha-ha! Eeyeah. Well. I have to admit. The idea is tempting. I mean, hey. I’d love to own 270 acres of land up there. Ha-ha! Eeyeah. I would. On the other hand - ha-ha! Yeah, it seems I am rather attached to my arm . . .
Ha-ha! Eeyeah, Yes I am. I am rather attached to my arm, aren’t I. Sure I am. Aren’t you?
WCAX posted the article online, and you can find it here:
http://www.wcax.com/Global/story.asp?S=10972494
So anywayz, that got me thinking, and I googled Mission New England. Not much came up that was relevant, and I found that rather interesting. But according to WCAX the guy who runs the group has a gun shop in Morrisville, and I found that on the web easy enough.
So what does that mean? Well, I guess it means it isn’t just a religious group, is it. No-no. They’re selling arms too. Yeah-ya. And I thought, well, Jeez, that’s a new twist on arms dealing. Isn’t it? Ha-ha, of course it is. These guys have a federal firearms license. That means the ATF already knows all about them. And apparently they aren’t worried that a few acts of intimidation are likely to result in their licesnse getting pulled, are they. Apparently not, because according to the article they run everybody off the property they don’t like, including town officials.
So yeah. It got me thinking. And as I looked over their little network of affiliated web pages, I noticed that John’s Gun Shop on the web is affiliated with a JRH enterprises out of West Green, GA. And they are selling a lot of the same stuff. So I’m thinking it goes something like this:
John was down that way, selling arms to the left overs of Ollie North’s crew who shipped them to the right wing militias in Columbia, and when that dried up he and his crew moved up this way. Sure. Now they are selling to the Indians on both sides of the border up here, just in case, you know. Just in case they need to do a fund raiser or tweak the Patriot Act or something, you know.
And then I found the page with their Biblical interpretations and it became clear. Sure. It’s all in the iconography.
http://www.nocompromisemusic.org/
"You Are the One!"
Love songs from ordinary people to an extraordinary God
You are the one . . . ha-ha! Eeyeah, they think life really is the Matrix and they are still looking for Neo . .. Ha-ha! Ee-yeah. And I bet you think I’m kidding . . .
And no compromise . . . that is the neo-conservative line of thinking right there, isn’t it? Of course it is, but wait. Just wait. Let me dig just a little deeper . . .
Do you remember reports indicating that Pentagon briefings to President Bush came with their own biblical quotations? In case you missed it, here are a pair of quotes, you know, just to keep you up to speed on this whole thing:
=============================
http://www.politicsdaily.com/2009/05/18/bush-admin-intel-reports-co...
From Denise Williams, at Politics Daily
May 18, 2009
"These cover sheets were the brainchild of Major General Glen Shaffer, a director for intelligence serving both the Joint Chiefs of Staff and the secretary of defense. In the days before the Iraq war, Shaffer's staff had created humorous covers in an attempt to alleviate the stress of preparing for battle . . . When colleagues complained to Shaffer that including a religious message with an intelligence briefing seemed inappropriate, Shaffer politely informed them that the practice would continue, because "my seniors"-JCS chairman Richard Myers, Rumsfeld, and the commander in chief himself-appreciated the cover pages."
==============================================
http://www.nytimes.com/2009/05/17/opinion/17rich-5.html?_r=1
OP-ED COLUMNIST
Obama Can’t Turn the Page on Bush
By FRANK RICH
Published: May 16, 2009
Draper’s biggest find is a collection of daily cover sheets that Rumsfeld approved for the Secretary of Defense Worldwide Intelligence Update, a highly classified digest prepared for a tiny audience, including the president, and often delivered by hand to the White House by the defense secretary himself. These cover sheets greeted Bush each day with triumphal color photos of the war headlined by biblical quotations. GQ is posting 11 of them, and they are seriously creepy.
. . .
On April 2, Gen. Joseph Hoar, the commander in chief of the United States Central Command from 1991-94, had declared on the Times Op-Ed page that Rumsfeld had sent too few troops to Iraq. And so the Worldwide Intelligence Update for April 3 bullied Bush with Joshua 1:9: “Have I not commanded you? Be strong and courageous. Do not be terrified; do not be discouraged, for the LORD your God will be with you wherever you go.” (Including, as it happened, into a quagmire.)
. . . .
If the Obama administration really wants to move on from the dark Bush era, it will need a new commission, backed up by serious law enforcement, to shed light on where every body is buried.
==================================================
So yeah, keep that in mind, and then note, that on the following page I found a narrative of this guy having had a visionary experience followed by a biblical quote, ending with this summation:
http://www.jesusfirst.org/current_issues/apost_proph/war.html
It is now January 1999, two years since this I experienced this vision. The time has now come—
Prepare for war!
So, you know. It’s obvious, isn’t it? Sure, he’s deep in the neo-conservative movement and up to his neck in having helped shape our incursion into Iraq. Only he’s been so deep under cover all these years he’s kinda forgotten that it’s just a script and now he’s living his cover identity 24-7, and the neighbors are getting kinda nervous. Ha-ha. Eeyeah. Of course they are. Well, why wouldn’t they. They never planned on finding a right wing, religious survivalist cult hiding out in the back woods setting up a safe house for Dick Cheney, did they?
Ha-ha! It’s crazy! That’s what it is! Just Plain Cr4zy!
© D. Winter
August 24, 2009
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Comment by ZenDog on August 26, 2009 at 8:26pm
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Kinda like playin' with matches around an open gas can, huh . . .
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Comment by Daniel Blattenbauer on August 26, 2009 at 5:27pm
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As a person with a concealed weapons permit, I am afraid some crazy gun wielding person will screw up and kill the president or at least shoot his way and then we will have a push in this country to restrict gun ownership. I am no Right Winger but I believe in gun ownership and self protection. However, I see no need to purposely show off my guns in public, especially at a meeting where some public official, especially the president, may be. That is plain stupidity in many ways I believe.
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Comment by Kittycat on August 25, 2009 at 10:51am
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:)
I'll try to work on that!
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Over my shoulder? Oman, you guys. That's not how it's done. You have to carry a map in your head of all the reflective surfaces, then as you pass by you scan them, very casually, as if you were, um, say, reading a menu . . .
HAA haa ha!
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So true, DHBE. Love ya, ZenDog. lol Just keep looking over your shoulder. :)
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Comment by Darkhairblueeyes on August 24, 2009 at 7:23pm
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LOL...you crack me up ZenDog. I am always wondering what you are going to write next...and I look forward to reading it...because it might not always be humorous...but it IS always interesting...you have a unique way of expressing yourself...it is always interesting and entertaining...
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Well now I'm a little pissed off. It seems all the links work except the first one. The first one copies as:
http://teebeedee.ning.com/profiles/blogs/%E2%80%9Dhttp://www.wcax.com/Global/story.asp?S=10972494"
AND I KNOW DAYUM WELL I DIDN'T TYPE IT THAT WAY.
buttwipes.
http://www.wcax.com/Global/story.asp?S=10972494
Just copy and paste that in your browser address bar and don't pester me.
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Comment by Judi on August 24, 2009 at 11:05am
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LOL! Crazy calling crazy, "crazy". You're right, ZD!
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