Prayer : Meeting's

[Wayne Goodwin]

Here in NC The subject of Prayer has come up at the start of Meeting's Of State and other offices of Government . Civil Liberties Union is at the head of stopping it . Yea Over Church and State .

What are your Thought's ?

Personally i think if they want to pray do it before they get to meeting , At home or in car . That would solve the issue , me thinks !

[Dell]

I agree. You force your religion on any group and there will always be problems. I believe religion is private and government should pray as they wish before the meetings. 

[crestofwaves]

What the heck are all y'all doing up????????????  Ain't you retired?  I was for seven months. Not anymore.

 

I don't think prayers is necessary at a government meeting.  Say the flag salute instead.  And YES, Wayne.  You have a good idea there.  Pray before the meeting on ones own.

 

[P.A.]

Do as it says in the Bible. Pray in private.

[frenchy]

i never could quite understand that .. tryin to force anyone to pray is just wrong .. if you believe in somethin you'll pray in private and won't need anyone to see you doin it ..i believe in the seperation of church and state .. if not then you get sharia law and the religion runs the country and if you don't agree with that religion then too bad .. you're stuck with it anyway .. religious freedom is an important thing to have .. freedom to be whatever faith you think is right .. even if its no faith at all .. should be your choice .. i can't speak for god but if he does exist then i think he'd rather you came to him on your own as opposed to commin cause you were coerced ..  

[Wayne Goodwin]

Nothing wrong with a ditto as long as ya got batteries ...

[ProblemAgain]

fricking morons...

North Carolina May Declare Official State Religion Under New Bill

The Huffington Post  |  By John Celock Posted: 04/03/2013 12:22 am EDT  |  Updated: 04/03/2013 10:55 am EDT

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North Carolina state Rep. Carl Ford backs a religion bill that would allow the state to declare an official state faith.

Republican North Carolina state legislators have proposed allowing an official state religion in a measure that would declare the state exempt from the Constitution and court rulings.

The bill, filed Monday by two GOP lawmakers from Rowan County and backed by nine other Republicans, says each state "is sovereign" and courts cannot block a state "from making laws respecting an establishment of religion." The legislation was filed in response to a lawsuit to stop county commissioners in Rowan County from opening meetings with a Christian prayer, wral.com reported.

The religion bill comes as some Republican-led states seek to separate themselves from the federal government, primarily on the issues of guns and Obamacare. This includes a proposal in Mississippi to establish a state board with the power to nullify federal laws.

The North Carolina bill's main sponsors, state Reps. Carl Ford (R-China Grove) and Harry Warren (R-Salisbury), could not be reached for comment on Tuesday, The Salisbury Post reported. Co-sponsors include House Majority Leader Edgar Starnes (R-Hickory). Another is state Rep. Larry Pittman (R-Concord), who in February introduced a state constitutional amendment that would allow for carrying concealed weapons to fight federal "tyranny."

The bill says the First Amendment only applies to the federal government and does not stop state governments, local governments and school districts from adopting measures that defy the Constitution. The legislation also says that the Tenth Amendment, which says powers not reserved for the federal government belong to the states, prohibits court rulings that would seek to apply the First Amendment to state and local officials.

The bill reads:

SECTION 1. The North Carolina General Assembly asserts that the Constitution of the United States of America does not prohibit states or their subsidiaries from making laws respecting an establishment of religion.

SECTION 2. The North Carolina General Assembly does not recognize federal court rulings which prohibit and otherwise regulate the State of North Carolina, its public schools, or any political subdivisions of the State from making laws respecting an establishment of religion.

The North Carolina state constitution disqualifies those who do not believe in God from public office. The provision has been unenforcible since the 1961 Supreme Court decision in Torcaso v. Watkins, which prohibited such bans.

[Wayne Goodwin]

That got dropped like a hot ember ....

[P.A.]

Somebody needs to read the 14th Amendment.

14th amendment section 1 (seems pretty clear to me)

Section 1. All persons born or naturalized in the United States, and subject to the jurisdiction thereof, are citizens of the United States and of the State wherein they reside. No State shall make or enforce any law which shall abridge the privileges or immunities of citizens of the United States; nor shall any State deprive any person of life, liberty, or property, without due process of law; nor deny to any person within its jurisdiction the equal protection of the laws.