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The Health Care Reform Bill that narrowly passed the House of Representatives is now being considered by the Senate. The following are quoted excerpts from the House version that was sent to the Senate. Read them and it will be crystal clear why President Obama is insisting that the
Senate pass the bill before they leave on a Congressional vacation.

Although he admitted at a White House press conference yesterday on July 22, that he had not "read the bill", it is obvious his advisors are afraid that if the Senators go home before voting on it and the people find out what is really in it, that it will not pass.

These are direct excerpts from the House version ....

Page 22: The federal government will be empowered to audit the books of any corporation that self-insures.

Page 29, Lines 4-16: All health care will be rationed based on age, the present health of any patient and the availability of health services and supplies.

Page 30, Sections 1-3: A government committee will decide what treatments or benefits will be made available under the health care that will be provided. It will be illegal to provide any medical benefits to anyone that haven't been pre-approved by the committee.

Page 42: A Health Choices Commissioner will be appointed by the President and will choose what health services will be provided to each patient.

Page 50, Section 152: Healthcare will be provided to all Non-U.S. citizens within the borders of the United States, illegal or otherwise.

Page 58: The Health Choices Commissioner's Office will have real time access two every medical patient's financial records and all citizens will be issued and be required to have on their person at all times a National ID Health card.

Page 59: (Continuation of Page 58) The Government will have direct access to all bank accounts and electronic transfer accounts of patients.

Page 65, Section 164: Subsidization for retirees of Unions and ACORN

Page 72, Lines 8-14: Brings all health care HMO and private insurance plans under government control.

Page 84: Section 203: All benefit packages for private health care plans will be under the control of the government.

Page 85, Line 7: The Health Choices Commissioner will specify what benefits will be allowable under private health care plans.

Page 95: Community Action Groups (ACORN and Americorps) will be authorized to sign up citizens for the Government Health Care Plan.



Page 102, Lines 12-18: All Medicaid eligible recipients will be automatically enrolled in Medicaid. They will have no choice.

Page 124, Lines 24-25: All government suppliers and contractors are exempt from price fixing lawsuits. "Judicial Review" is prohibited.

Page 126, Lines 22-25: Employers must pay for the health care for any part-time employees AND their families.

Page 127, Lines 1-16: The government will set salaries for all doctors.

Page 145, Lines 15-17: An employee will be required to automatically enroll all employees in the public option plan. The employee will not have any choice in the matter.



Page 149, Lines 16-24: Any employer with a payroll of $400,000 or more who does not provide a public option, will be required to pay the government 8% surtax on the payroll.

Page 150, Lines 9-13: Any employer with a payroll between $251,000 and $400,000 who doesn't provide a public option will be required to pay a 6% surtax on their payroll.

Page 179, Lines 1-3: Any non-resident Alien is EXEMPT from individual health care taxes.

Page 195: All officers and employees of the Health Care administration will have unlimited access to the financial and personal records of ALL American citizens without the necessity of a search warrant.

Page 203, Lines 14-15: (The following is a direct quote!) "The tax imposed under this section shall not be treated as a tax." (Presumably therefore it cannot be deducted on income tax returns)

Page 239, Lines 14-24: The government will reduce physician services for Medicaid, thereby rationing medical support for the poor.

Page 241, Lines 6-8: All doctors will be paid equally, with no regard to specialty of training required.



Page 253, Lines 10-18: The Health Care administration will decide the value of the time of physicians, professional judgment, etc.

Page 265 Section 1131: The Health Care administration will control and mandate productivity for private health care industries, nursing services, hospice, retirement centers, drug production, etc.

Page 268, Section 1141: The Health Care administration will regulate the rental and purchase of power-driven wheelchairs.

Page 272, Section 1145: The Health Care administration will determine what treatment will be provided at Cancer hospitals and will ration treatment based on type and the classification of a patient.

Page 280, Section 1151: The government will penalize hospitals if they exceed their quota of "preventable readmissions."

Page 298, Lines 9-11: If doctors treat a patient during an initial admission that results in a readmission to the hospital, the government will penalize the patient.

Page 317-318, Lines 21-25: The government will be authorized to tell physicians what they can own and how much, and can audit their personal records without a warrant.

Page 317-318, Lines 21-25: Hospitals will not be permitted to expand their physical facilities.

Page 321, Lines 2-13: Hospitals wanting to expand may appeal for an exception to the expansion rule, but community approval is required through community action agencies (ie: ACORN)

Page 341, Lines 3-9: The government has the authority to disqualify Medicare supplemental plans, HMO, private insurance plans, etc., which will force all citizens into the government plan.

Page 354, Section 1177: The government will restrict enrollment of "Special Needs" patients
(ie: Downs Syndrome, Speech Therapy, handicapped, etc.)

Page 379, Section 1191: The government will create a Telehealth Advisory Committee which will provide health advice by phone.

Page 425, Lines 4-12: An "Advance Planning Care Consultant" Department will be created.
Think 'End of Life' for Senior Citizens.

Page 425, Lines 22-25: (Page 426: Lines 1-3): The Government will provide a list of end of life resources that will guide senior citizens to their death.

Page 427, Lines 15-24: The government will mandate orders for end of life actions. In brief, the government will decide how life ends.

Page 429, Lines 1-9: An "Advance Care Planning Consultant" will be used more frequently as a patient's health deteriorates.

Page 429, Lines 10-12: The "Advance Care Planning Consultant" will include the authority for "End of Life" plans, on an order from the government.

Page 429, Lines 13-25: The government will specify which doctors will have the authority to sign an "End of Life" Order.

Page 430, Lines 11-15: The government will decide what level of treatment patients will receive at the end of their lives.

Page 469: Medical services and nursing for home-based patients will be provided by "Community-based organizations." (ACORN, etc.)

Page 472, Lines 14-17: Such community based organizations will be paid by the government once each month based on the number of patients they serve. Such organizations will not be required to employ registered or practical nursing professionals.

Page 489, Section 1308: Marriages and divorces will not be authorized unless the couple subjects themselves to marriage and family therapy.

Page 494-498: All Mental Health Services will be provided by the government including defining, creating, and rationing those services.

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..... Remember .... these are just excerpts from the House version jammed through the House by Speaker Nancy Pelosi (D-CA)

It might be better entitled "Soylent Green - 2009"

or

"The Death Sentence Bill for Grandparents, the infirm, and the Handicapped".

Incidentally, on the front page of the Tulsa World (July 23 issue) the President was quoted as saying in a press conference ......

"This isn't about me. I have great health insurance, and so does every member of Congress."

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Hiya Pam shall i read this and eat the evidence (private joke) take care
What do u think about us changing our healthcare? Do u like yours?
I think globally you will find this issue , I have seen and witnessed this over my years in nursing ,Reforms and policies are meaningless words unless the patients has conducive benefits ,but thank you for sharing , That remains me i was offered a nursing post in Little Rock a few year ago through the international hospital group but as i explained yesterday, I would not fly , Take care.

KEVIN (Darby)
Pam,

This is being rammed through by the o along with congress who don't want to hear the "majority" of this nation. This isn't about healthcare, this is about an agenda. The agenda is ultimately to uthanize seniors (in a culturally acceptable manner) and to give government the power to implant a chip on everyone. Can't do that with individualized healthcare and you can't do that with the powerful medical groups in business today.

People don't want to hear this but honestly, nothing else makes sense.
I'd like to read the raw original text.. Please, what is the exact house or senate bill or legislation number?????
Hi Bonez, good to see you here and interested. The bill is H.R. 3200 and can be read at the website given below. I tried to read it and I can see why a Senator would want a group of lawyers reading it. This is a difficult read. Please come back and comment as you feel led.


http://www.docstoc.com/docs/8514620/HR-3200
Hey Sarge, Glad to see you here also. I am in the middle of reading book 4 of 12 in the Left Behind Series written by Tim LaHaye. You talk about scary, this book series was written in 1995. There is so much in it that is relevant to what is happening all over the world today. My husband is also reading it and is an Atheist. He is so fasinated with it that he can't put it down. . I hope he reads the book of Revelation from the Bible when he is finished and compares it with the book series.

We will probably go back and read George Orwell's 1984 and a few other books about the future.

You do have an interesting point. But we must remember that God is in control and that we should pray for our leaders.
Returning to Canada following 15 yrs in the U.S.A. the biggest thing i left behind was my fear of illness or injury. I hope that one day all Americans will not fear the financial difficulties of health care. Is our system perfect? Probably not, but what system of anything is? Emergency room triage moves most needing immediate care right up the list. Best wishes to you all in dealing with this difficult issue.
Pam, thanks for posting this... in talking with a Dr. friend of mine, he and his collegues don't want to see this go through, yes what we have isn't the best, but I beleive going forward with this plan things won't get better.
Once again "WE THE PEOPLE" Get screwed by our trusted elected officials.
I've heard recently that the phamaceutical companies are willing to come down on their prices under the new reform. What I don't understand is why they can't just do it without the gov't. unless of course the gov't is going to make some kind of a deal with them. Hmmmmmmm......makes one wonder doesn't it?
If this is the best they can come up with, we're screwed. Good luck avoiding situations that require health/medical care.

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