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There is a little more than a month to go till spring, plus or minus, what Puxatony Phil has given us as a sweetener to winter. And yes, it is appropriate, even in polite society, to say as to the ongoing winter of 2013 and 2014, Mother Nature is a bit.. So much so, she has already left a mess, and still has a punch or two left for the rest of the country before her icy, snowy claws are withdrawn for the green and smell of new growth and the warming of Spring.

There remains, of course, the consequences of what has already happen, no season starts or stops on a day on the calendar. One of the consequences of snow is water. In the California Sierras that is what we depend on to drink, live our lives and grow billions of dollars of crops to feed the country and the world. In the areas that have received this winter's record cold and snow, there will be water when the thaw occurs, lots of water, that has to go somewhere when the banks of streams and rivers are full, and must flood. And that is a guaranteed event this year, as it has in years past, and it will happen possibly in many more parts of the country and be worse than what is usually expected and experienced, and now experiencing, including the great costs to people, places and the economy to deal with the experience; before, during and after the event.

And it is happening now, but not here, it is happening in Britain, where it has rained for months this winter and there the floods are already records, destructive, and will continue. As the most recent storm apocalypse exits the US, the same system will move across the North Atlantic and be a devastating rain event in Britain and then across Europe and Asia as a snow and ice event to exit back into the Alaska Gulf, and...well, you get the picture how the atmosphere works to renew the weather. And yes, there is climate change and an there are impacts, what and why of these things happening, and how they change the weather, we are still learning. Which of course, doesn't change the fact that this winter, 2013-2014 was, and is a challenge to most of the world.  Footnote: it is warm in Sochi, Russia, its so warm it is melting the venues while visitors are enjoying the Black Sea beaches.

And speaking of venue change, the weather challenge moves to spring and its threat of storms, major storms in the Mississippi Valley as the clash of air masses plays out an old story of destruction and possible death. If there is any good news in all of this, is we are better at finding, tracking and analyzing these storms to provide a warning, even if only a few moments, to save lives, but not necessarily property.

If you build something where weather comes, dangerous weather, then you can expect dangerous results. Build a house or any building,  with a view, be it on the ocean, in the mountains or some other scenic place, there is a risk, a risk nature will destroy it or other wreck it.  Burn, blow, wash, crush or otherwise damage your property, even with the best of preventative care.

What this should tell us is life and living is a risk venture every day you can still wake up. and yes, Mother Nature can be a bit..., just saying...

And, oh, yes, the bookings to get a spring vacation away in the sun and heat? Going to be happening, big time...just saying, if you need to get around in the air this spring be warned to bring something to read, wear and sleep in...you going to need it.

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It is climate change, but it changes all the time...and here is a classic case of meteorology and climatology, these events have happened before, it just that there are more people in harm's way.

As to the science involved in all of this, not so fast, what is the new normal is based more on human time than climate time.   There are long oscillations in the atmosphere that are just now be determined as to length, degree and possible causes much less results being study.   Do we believe that human activity has effected both the climate and the environment, that is not in question  The question is to what sum and part is human activity changing the weather, we don't know, and yes, it is complicated.

The sun is going through an energy cycle that is not seen very often, and our current orbit of the earth does change in tremendously long cycles that brings the earth both closer and further from the sun and as to the energy the earth actually receives, stores vs reflects and then mitigates through the atmosphere, oceans and land masses.  And of course there are temporal events such as volcanoes that are a part of the equation, and it isn't that they erupt, they do, it is the type of eruption and duration that is important, or at least a contribution to what happens in the atmosphere in relatively short periods of time.  Even the amount of space debris that hits the atmosphere makes a difference in the weather and climate, we think...or it should...we think...

And Yes, it is complicated....regardless if you consult; a scientific journal, the Bible or the almanac...much less the calendar....  and yes, it is still Winter....in the Northern Hemisphere and that is a fact....

When did anyone think that winter would disappear as the average world temperatures and sea levels rise?

Probably quite a few, in that, many confuse meteorology with climatology, what's today's weather isn't what happened a 100 years ago, nor will be what happens 100 years from now.  

And if you think this winter is bad, put your arms around an Ice Age that about 10,000 or so years ago, where, New York's Central Park had something like a mile of ice above it...and we are statistically in an inter-glacial period, probably a little more than half way through such a circle, which, might be postponed for a little while longer due to what we have been doing since we have become the dominate species on the earth.

And certainly, we should be aware of what is happening around us. And sure, that makes sense...but that isn't science...we are still collecting data, testing models and, yes, we need a lot more, time span data, ongoing research, indepth analysis and more complicated modeling.

Now, as to doing nothing, not a good idea, but doing some thing isn't science if it is based on politics and belief...I mean, astrology uses the stars, planets and cool looking symbols that are also used in science, but is it a science? Or is it a religion? Or more a set of firmly held beliefs?  Or just some silly entertainment?  

Again, just saying...

  

The planet will stop warming up when the next ice age begins, which I think is imminent (in geological terms).  I don't think the artificial warming due to unregulated atmospheric pollution will do anything but bring on the next ice age sooner then it would have.  The problem right now is how much warmer will it get, more atmospheric moisture due to warmer temperatures will bring on more and more severe weather, summer and winter.  The melting caps will rise sea levels, then again how high before the whole shebang reverses and leaves seaside properties high and dry.

It's already too late to stop the acceleration, but it may also hasten the reversal which would probably be a good thing, except 5 miles of ice over Kansas, etc. is going to be rough on Toto.  

Anyhow that's my two cents.  I may have my PhD in physics, it ain't in meteorology or climatology but I did a lot of satellite reconnaissance 1960's - 1980's and I think I'm right.

You may now tell me to go F myself lol ...

Never, and it is always about the discussion and ideas...l3....

We could discuss the status of STEM and knowledge in science by the American public that believes in ghost, don't read books on a yearly basis and consider the glitterati and celebrityhood that are in the main, are media creations... but, giving that...

I too, had a opportunity to deal with satellites, when they were new.  i worked as a student, at university's meteorology and climatology department doing scientific illustrations, and as a part of that experience, was involved in the most amazing developments as the field of meteorology went into space with the spin-scan camera...the point of the experiment was to us a world view, a whole picture of it and everything that could be seen...

It was that happenstance, I, with a few others, five of us it think in all, were present when first printout of a whole earth camera scan from space was produced from the printing machine(a engineering marvel at the time itself) and beheld the entire Northern and Southern hemisphere in color....for the first time, ever.

A priceless and a historical moment, in all regards....to see what we looked like, our planet Earth, from space, thousands of miles away....and what we saw was a surprise....to all of us...we hadn't expected the colors we saw...the world was blue for sure, not all the same blue for the oceans, but the ground was surprisingly brown, going from shades of brown to gray...with small bits of white...but with smaller rivers of green....showing mostly water flows down great river basins...and though, this wasn't the only the thing that ever happened in my life...it was a special moment...for me and science....just saying...

I (CIA Bridgehead Project / Red Dot Program [Declassified]) was flying satellites ("C Program") (and U2 & SR-71) over Russia since the 60's which often include the Arctic.  I was watching the ice disappear more and more almost every year.

My wife also worked with classified projects and she brought home the first shots of Earth from Moon orbit (Unclassified) before they were made public -- too cool!)

It was cool...for sure...and new...and then exciting...now...the moon landing was 40 years ago...and man in space for almost 50 years....and for both of us, a life time....let the kids upload that!

I feel bad that they'll not experience the thrill it was for us back then ...

We also assisted a lot of geophysical surveys of the planet because we were more interested in mapping than exploring. 

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In recent years, largely thanks to the dampening effects of the Great Recession, U.S. carbon emissions were in decline (though they grew by 2 percent in 2013). Still, whatever the president may claim, we're not heading toward a "cleaner, safer planet." If anything, we're heading toward a dirtier, more dangerous world.

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