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George W. Bush to Raise Money for Group That Converts Jews to Hasten The End of The World

The former president follows in the footsteps of Glenn Beck, who addressed the group last year.

Most ex-presidents do work in charity or progress, just say'n...

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Permalink Reply by A4L on November 10, 2013 at 1:23pm

All of Jesus' Apostles were Jews if I'm not mistaken and Paul who was a Jew persecuted the church, and then followed Jesus.

And the president is a Christian.

The Savior of Christians (or those that believe in Jesus if you like) said:

Mark 16:15, “And He said unto them, Go ye into all the world, and preach the Gospel to every creature.

Permalink Reply by Lifesighs on November 10, 2013 at 7:08pm

They can start with the creatures in the woods and seas, don't come knocking on my door.

Permalink Reply by LoveLife&Laughter on November 10, 2013 at 7:45pm

Paul did not persecute the Church, he invented the Church and that Jesus was God.

The president is a Christian but he is not a zealot that is trying to hasten the End of days in his lifetime. If you are familiar with the Bible the End of Days was supposed to happen during Paul's lifetime.

We're still waiting...

Permalink Reply by A4L on November 11, 2013 at 9:18am

"I am verily a man which am a Jew, born in Tarsus, a city in Cilicia, yet brought up in this city at the feet of Gamaliel, and taught according to the perfect manner of the law of the fathers, ...

⁴ And I persecuted this way unto the death, binding and delivering in...

⁵ As also the high priest doth bear me witness, and all the estate of...

⁶ And it came to pass, that, as I made my journey, and was come nigh ...

⁷ And I fell unto the ground, and heard a voice saying unto me, Saul, Saul, why persecutest thou me?"

Which believers did Jesus not exhort to spread the Gospel?

As to the end of days, doesn't it say somewhere, "No man knoweth the times or the hours?"

As to where anyone comes knocking, it would be nice if none of us had to endure anything that we don't like or want.

Wish the IRS would stay completely out of my life as well.

It would be nice

Permalink Reply by ProblemAgain on November 11, 2013 at 10:47am

Wish the IRS would stay completely out of my life as well.

"Render therefore unto Caesar the things which are Caesar's; and unto God the things that are God's"

Permalink Reply by A4L on November 11, 2013 at 2:35pm

Amen

Permalink Reply by ProblemAgain on November 11, 2013 at 3:42pm

and of course if it wasn't for the irs and property taxes etc, you wouldn't have the security to think about stuff. you'd be too busy living like it was somalia....

Permalink Reply by LoveLife&Laughter on November 12, 2013 at 9:04am

That's what Saul want's the ignorant masses to believe. He wrote the book.

Actually he was an opportunist and a businessman. You'd have to be a con artist to sell this product.

It used to be easy to fool people into gibberish when they were superstitious and uneducated. However modern con artists and religions are still a dime a dozen: Jonestown, the Waco Whackos, the UFO gays, Robertson, Joseph Smith, etc. Check your local Tea Party, find all the true believers there....Jesus freaks, gun nuts, generic obese suburbanites, and the super rich.

Permalink Reply by A4L on November 12, 2013 at 10:31am

Is there a lot of historical evidence that is available to validate these assertions of Saul making this stuff up? Didn't many believers die for their faith including Paul? This was so important to them that they wanted to die for a business venture?

If this was so easy for anyone to do why has it lasted so long? Been so central to so many events on this planet? Why are there not tens of thousands more of these business entrepreneurs with writings that have had this type of effect?

I have never heard anyone say what you just said, so I would be curious to know where the proof or evidence resides.

Permalink Reply by LoveLife&Laughter on November 12, 2013 at 11:12am

"Is there a lot of historical evidence that is available to validate these assertions of Saul making this stuff up?"

These so far. The Saul "Paul" was alone trying to make Jesus a God, which Jesus never claimed.

1. Books of the Apocrypha:

    First and Second Esdras (150-100 BC)
    Tobit (200 BC)
    Judith (150 BC)
    Additions to Esther (140-130 BC)
    Wisdom of Solomon (30 BC)
    Ecclesiasticus, otherwise known as The Wisdom of Jesus son of Sirach (132 BC)
    Baruch (150-50 BC)
    Letter of Jeremiah (300-100 BC)
    Song of the Three Holy Children, an addition in the Greek version of Daniel 3 (170-160 BC)
    Susanna (200-0 BC)
    Bel and the Dragon (100 BC)
    Additions to Daniel, or the Prayer of Azariah (200-0 BC)
    Prayer of Manasseh (100-0 BC)
    First Maccabees (110 BC)
    Second Maccabees (110-170 BC)

2. Books of the Pseudepigrapha:

    Epistle of Barnabas
    First (and Second) Epistle of Clement to the Corinthians
    The letter of the Smyrnaeans (also known as The Martyrdom of Polycarp)
    The Shepherd of Hermas
    The Book of Enoch
    The Gospel of Judas (130-170 AD)
    The Gospel of Thomas (140-170 AD)
    The Psalms of Solomon
    The Odes of Solomon
    The Testaments of the Twelve Patriarchs
    Second Baruch
    The Books of Adam and Eve
    The Acts of Phillip
    The Apocalypse of Peter
    The Gospel of the Nativity of Mary
    The Gospel of Nicodemus
    The Gospel of the Saviour’s Infancy
    The History of Joseph the Carpenter
    The Acts of Paul (including Paul and Thecla)
    The Seven Epistles of Ignatius
    The Epistle of Polycarp to the Philippians