The Illuminati...

[Just-a-Writer]

I came across a thread on The View's message board where people were discussing this as if it were a real, modern-day threat. I decided not to comment at all because I thought they were all nuts. Obama and the Illuminati are trying to take over the world in a New World Order (remember that oldie but goodie?), and the thread was entitled "Are all Musicians Members of the Illuminati?"

Are they crazy or am I wrong?

[Madhatterat60]

"Madhatter, I want that bumper sticker! =D"

Mine reads: "May I always strive to be the person my dog thinks I am!"

[Snagg]

I'm with JaW. The national head of the tea party last week called for the right to vote to be stripped from all Americans who don't own property, and a Virginia representative stood on the floor of the senate and declared that the TSA was not to blame for pornoscans and security gropings because they had been infiltrated by "The Homosexual Agenda" and the gropings were all a part of the Gay Master Plan to molest private citizens in public places.

If I ever think those dipshits are in serious danger of running the country, I'm heading for Canada. Shit, I'd head for someplace where the fallout from them launching Armageddon is least likely to wind up, but I'm not sure where that might be, other than in a salt mine.

[Pixiegirl]

They ARE CRAZY and YOU ARE WRONG!

Nothing is as it seems

[no1toolmkr]

as crazy as it may seem, The Illuminati do exist. They are powerfully wealthy and in control of all the money and most of the debts. They have existed for 100's of years in the shadows behind governments, they finance wars from both sides and control our media in livid detail. 

If you doubt their existence and choose to live ignorant of their influence upon you then so be it, I'm not here to start any arguments, However all you need to do is listen to some of our presidents throughout history and their existence will be revealed to you with spooky clarity. Here's is just one example of such speech's. there are many from several of our own presidents going all the way back to George Washington himself.

 

[no1toolmkr]

Realizing that Just a Writer may have dropped her JAW with that post.

    I simply dare you or anyone to seriously investigate the existence of the Illuminati or secret society. and challenge the conspiracy of their stranglehold on the worlds economies and power over individuals around the globe and here.
    We are nothing but pawns to them and our elected leaders are nothing more than puppet's. There have been several of our presidents and other world leaders that have spoken out against them throughout history. The situation becomes more and more dire for them as they are beginning to lose their grip on news and information that the individual has at their disposal. As President Kennedy has asked, I'm spreading the word. You have been enlightened to the existence of the Illuminati. Now what you do with that information is entirely up to you.

Ignore it at our mutual peril, everyone will be effected in the gravest way in the near future if we do not unite together and oppose them.

[no1toolmkr]

perhaps another President speaking out about this will get you people thinking right about this?

 

[no1toolmkr]

I think it's pretty crazy myself Pacis. And I totally wish it were not true.

However, as you look into the political problems and issues we've had and try to figure out what happened.

You can not help but stumble into the Effects of the Illuminati.

The good thing is that more and more people are figuring it out because of the resources they have for the truth. Keep looking. I'd either like to see you folks prove me wrong, or get on board to stopping them and take back our country. Either way it would be the end of the political strife we seem to have now.

[no1toolmkr]

Awwww come on JAW, have you run and hidden or are you pondering the reality of this issue?

[no1toolmkr]

Some more quotes I've found.

Sure hope you come back to debate this issue JAW

I can find many, many more.

Hopefully, I can find enough evidence to convince you of what the truth really is.

 

 

The real truth of the matter is, as you and I know, that a financial element in the large centers has owned the government of the U.S. since the days of Andrew Jackson."-- U.S. President Franklin D. Roosevelt in a letter written Nov. 21, 1933 to Colonel E. Mandell House

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"Fifty men have run America, and that's a high figure." 
Joseph Kennedy, father of JFK, in the July 26th, l936 issue of The New York Times

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"From the days of Sparticus, Weishaupt, Karl Marx, Trotski, belacoon, Rosa Luxenberg and 
Ema Goldman, this world conspiracy has been steadily growing. This conspiracy played a definite recognizable role in the French Revolution. It has been the mainspring of every subversive movement during the 19th century. And now at last, this band of extraordinary personalities from the under- world of the great cities of Europe and America have gripped the Russian people by the hair of their head and have become the undisputed masters of that enormous empire."--Winston Churchill to the London press in 1922

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"The real rulers in Washington are invisible and exercise their power from behind the 
scenes."-- Justice Felix Frankfurter, U.S. Supreme Court

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"Some of the biggest men in the United States, in the field of commerce and manufacture, are afraid of something. They know that there is a power somewhere so organized, so subtle, so watchful, so interlocked, so complete, so pervasive, that they had better not speak above their breath when they speak in condemnation of it." - Woodrow Wilson

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"I believe that if the people of this nation fully understood what Congress has done to them over the last 49 years, they would move on Washington; they would not wait for an election....It adds up to a preconceived plan to destroy the economic and social independence of the United States!" --George W. Malone, U.S. Senator (Nevada), speaking before Congress in1957.

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"We can't be so fixated on our desire to preserve the rights of ordinary Americans..." 
Bill Clinton (USA TODAY, 11 March 1993, page 2A)

[no1toolmkr]

And some more notable quotes from well known people of history....

 

 

 

Nicholas Murray Butler:

"The old world order changed when this war-storm broke. The old international order passed away as suddenly, as unexpectedly, and as completely as if it had been wiped out by a gigantic flood, by a great tempest, or by a volcanic eruption. The old world order died with the setting of that day's sun and a new world order is being born while I speak, with birth-pangs so terrible that it seems almost incredible that life could come out of such fearful suffering and such overwhelming sorrow." --Nicholas Murray Butler, in an address delivered before the Union League of Philadelphia, Nov. 27, 1915

M.C. Alexander:

"The peace conference has assembled. It will make the most momentous decisions in history, and upon these decisions will rest the stability of the new world order and the future peace of the world."-- M. C. Alexander, Executive Secretary of the American Association for International Conciliation, in a subscription letter for the periodical International Conciliation (1919)

 

Dr. Augustus O. Thomas:

"If there are those who think we are to jump immediately into a new world order, actuated by complete understanding and brotherly love, they are doomed to disappointment. If we are ever to approach that time, it will be after patient and persistent effort of long duration. The present international situation of mistrust and fear can only be corrected by a formula of equal status, continuously applied, to every phase of international contacts, until the cobwebs of the old order are brushed out of the minds of the people of all lands." 
Dr. Augustus O. Thomas, president of the World Federation of Education Associations (August 1927), quoted in the book "International Understanding: Agencies Educating for a NewWorld" (1931)

H. G. Wells:

"... when the struggle seems to be drifting definitely towards a world social democracy, there may still be very great delays and disappointments before it becomes an efficient and beneficent world system.
Countless people ... will hate the new world order ... and will die protesting against it. When we attempt to evaluate its promise, we have to bear in mind the distress of a generation or so of malcontents, many of them quite gallant and graceful-looking people." 
 H. G. Wells, in his book entitled "The New World Order" (1939)

Adolf Hitler:

"National Socialism will use its own revolution for establishing a new world order." 
Adolf Hitler during World War II

New York Times:

"In the first public declaration on the Jewish question since the outbreak of the war, Arthur Greenwood, member without portfolio in the British War Cabinet, assured the Jews of the United States that when victory was achieved an effort would be made to found a new world order based on the ideals of 'justice and peace.'" 
-- excerpt from article entitled "New World Order Pledged to Jews," in the New York Times 
(October 1940)

Zionist, Albert Einstein:

... "IN ORDER to achieve the final aim - which is one world, and not two hostile worlds - such a partial world Government must never act as an alliance against the rest of the world. The only real step toward world government is world Government itself."
Open Letter to the General Assembly of the United Nations, 1947

James Paul Warburg:

"We shall have World Government, whether or not we like it. The only question is whether 
World Government will be achieved by conquest or consent." 
Statement made before the United States Senate on Feb. 7, 1950 by James Paul Warburg ("Angel" to and active in the United World Federalists), son of Paul Moritz Warburg, nephew of Felix Warburg and of Jacob Schiff, both of Kuhn, Loeb & Co. which poured millions into the Russian Revolution through James' brother Max, banker to the German government - See the Siss?on Report

Bertrand Russell:

1953 - The Impact of Science on Society by Fabian Socialist Bertrand Russell is published in which he declares:  " I think the subject which will be of most importance politically is mass psychology....Various results will soon be arrived at:  that the influence of home is obstructive .... although this science will be diligently studied, it will be rigidly confined to the governing class.  The populace will not be allowed to know how its convictions were generated.  When the technique has been perfected, every government that has been in charge of education for a generation will be able to control its subjects securely without the need of armies or policemen....Educational propaganda, with government help, could achieve this result in a generation.  There are, however, two powerful forces opposed to such a policy: one is religion; the other is nationalism....A scientific world society cannot be stable unless there is a world government.

Chester Ward:

"The main purpose of the Council on Foreign Relations is promoting the disarmament of US. sovereignty and national independence and submergence into an all powerful, one world government". 
Chester Ward, Rear Admiral and former Navy Judge Advocate 1956 - 1960 and CFR member for 15 years 


 

Gov. Nelson Rockefeller:

"The United Nations, he told an audience at Harvard University, 'has not been able--nor can it be able--to shape a new world order which events so compellingly demand.' ... The new world orderthat will answer economic, military, and political problems, he said, 'urgently requires, I believe, that the United States take the leadership among all free peoples to make the underlying concepts and aspirations of national sovereignty truly meaningful through the federal approach.'" 
Gov. Nelson Rockefeller of New York, in an article entitled "Rockefeller Bids Free Lands Unite: Calls at Harvard for Drive to Build New World Order" -- New York Times (February 1962)

Pope Paul VI:

1967 - March 26:  Pope Paul VI writes Populorum Progressio and states:  "Who can fail to see the need and importance of thus gradually coming to the establishment of a world authority capable of taking effective action on the juridical and political planes?    Delegates to international organizations, public officials, gentlemen of the press, teachers and educators--all of you must realize that you have your part to play in the construction of a new world order.

 

Robert F. Kennedy:

"All of us will ultimately be judged on the effort we have contributed to building a NEW WORLDORDER."
Robert Kennedy, former U.S. Attorney-General, 1967.

Richard Nixon:

"The developing coherence of Asian regional thinking is reflected in a disposition to consider problems and loyalties in regional terms, and to evolve regional approaches to development needs and to the evolution of a new world order." 
Richard Nixon, in Foreign Affairs (October 1967)

Zbigniew Brzezinski:

"...This regionalization is in keeping with the Tri-Lateral Plan which calls for a gradual convergence of East and West, ultimately leading toward the goal of "one world government'....National sovereignty is no longer a viable concept..." 
Zbigniew Brzezinski, National Security Advisor to President Jimmy Carter.

David Rockefeller:

"We are on the verge of a global transformation. All we need is the right major crisis and the nations will accept the New World Order." 
David Rockefeller

Richard N. Gardner

"If instant world government, Charter review, and a greatly strengthened International Court do not 
provide the answers, what hope for progress is there? The answer will not satisfy those who seek simple solutions to complex problems, but it comes down essentially to this: The hope for the foreseeable lies, not in building up a few ambitious central institutions of universal membership and general jurisdiction as was envisaged at the end of the last war, but rather in the much more decentralized, disorderly and pragmatic process of inventing or adapting institutions of limited jurisdiction and selected membership to deal with specific problems on a case-by-case basis ... In short, the 'house of world order' will have to be built from the bottom up rather than from the top down. It will look like a great 'booming, buzzing confusion,' to use William James' famous description of reality, but an end run around national sovereignty, eroding it piece by piece, will accomplish much more than the old-fashioned frontal assault." 
Richard N. Gardner, in Foreign Affairs (April 1974) 

Henry Kissinger:

"My country's history, Mr. President, tells us that it is possible to fashion unity while cherishing diversity, that common action is possible despite the variety of races, interests, and beliefs we see here in this chamber. Progress and peace and justice are attainable. So we say to all peoples and governments: Let us fashion together a new world order." 
(Henry Kissinger, in address before the General Assembly of the United Nations, October 1975)

Fidel Castro:

1979 - Fidel Castro, Associated Press Oct 12 1979 at the United Nations.   "Fidel Castro finger waving in the air and angry fist thumping the lectern, demanded a "new world order" and dressed down the United States today for "aggressive" and "exploitative" policies around the world."

Mikhail Gorbachev:

"Further global progress is now possible only through a quest for universal consensus in the movement towards a new world order." 
Mikhail Gorbachev, in an address at the United Nations (December 1988) 

Richard Gephardt:

"We can see beyond the present shadows of war in the Middle East to a new world order where the
strong work together to deter and stop aggression. This was precisely Franklin Roosevelt's and Winston Churchill's vision for peace for the post-war period." 
 Richard Gephardt, in the Wall Street Journal (September 1990)

George Bush:

"If we do not follow the dictates of our inner moral compass and stand up for human life, then his 
lawlessness will threaten the peace and democracy of the emerging new world order we now see, this long dreamed-of vision we've all worked toward for so long." 
President George Bush (January 1991)

"Now, we can see a new world coming into view. A world in which there is the very real prospect of a new world order. In the words of Winston Churchill, a "world order" in which "the principles of justice and fair play ... protect the weak against the strong ..." A world where the United Nations, freed from cold war stalemate, is poised to fulfill the historic vision of its founders. A world in which freedom and respect for human rights find a home among all nations."
March 6, 1991

Henry Kissinger:

"Today, America would be outraged if U.N. troops entered Los Angeles to restore order [referring to the 1991 LA Riot]. Tomorrow they will be grateful! This is especially true if they were told that there were an outside threat from beyond [i.e., an "extraterrestrial" invasion], whether real or *promulgated* [emphasis mine], that threatened our very existence. It is then that all peoples of the world will plead to deliver them from this evil. The one thing every man fears is the unknown. When presented with this *scenario*, individual rights will be willingly relinquished for the guarantee of their well-being granted to them by the World Government." 
Dr. Henry Kissinger, Bilderberger Conference, Evians, France, 1991

Bill Clinton:

1993 - June 22.  In case there is any doubt about whether President Clinton(CFR) supports world government, on this date he signs a letter to the World Federalist Association congratulating Strobe Talbott(CFR) on receiving (june 24) the WFA's first "Norman Cousins Global Governance Award."  The WFA is a leading force for world federal government.  Clinton's letter states:  "Norman Cousins worked for world peace and world government...Strobe Talbott's lifetime achievements as a voice for global harmony have earned him this recognition....He will be a worthy recipient of the Norman Cousins Global Governance Award.  Best wishes....for future success."

Gen. Colin Powell:

1993 - September 9:  Concerning whether U.S. troops should remain in Somalia as part of a U.N. operation, General Colin Powell, chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff, says that a pullout would be "devastating to our hopes for the new world order and our ability to participate in multinational organizations to deal with problems like this."

David Rockefeller:

"But this present window of opportunity, during which a truly peaceful and interdependent world order might be built, will not be open for long. Already there are powerful forces at work that threaten to destroy all of our hopes and efforts to erect an enduring structure of global interdependence." 
David Rockefeller, speaking at the Business Council for the United Nations, September 14, 1994.

Nelson Mandela:

The "new world order that is in the making must focus on the creation of a world of democracy, peace and prosperity for all." 
Nelson Mandela, in the Philadelphia Inquirer (October 1994)

Henry Kissinger:

"NAFTA is a major stepping stone to the New World Order." 
Henry Kissinger when campaigning for the passage of NAFTA.

"[The New World Order] cannot happen without U.S. participation, as we are the most 
significant single component. Yes, there will be a New World Order, and it will force the United 
States to change it's perceptions." 
World Affairs Council Press Conference, Regent Beverly Wilshire Hotel , April 19th 1994

Arthur Schlesinger Jr.

"We are not going to achieve a new world order without paying for it in blood as well as in words and money." 
Arthur Schlesinger, Jr., in Foreign Affairs (July/August 1995)

George Soros:

1995 - Jan 27:  Billionaire financier George Soros at the World Economic Forum at Davos, Switzerland, says the world needs a "new world order," and he further warns: "I am here to alert you that we are entering a period of world disorder."

Walter Cronkite:

1996 - A Reporter's Life by Walter Cronkite is published, in which he proclaims:  " if we are to avoid catastrophe, a system of world order--preferably a system of world government --is mandatory.  The proud nations someday will ....yield up their precious sovereignty."

Gary Hart:

2001 - "There is a chance for the President of the United States to use this (9-11) disaster to carry out ... a new world order."  (Gary Hart, at a televised meting organized by the CFR in Washington, D.C. Sept 14.)

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[no1toolmkr]

This looks pretty scary folks, all things considering don't ya think?

 

 

One must read this one closely but when it dawns on you that the 10 Governors to be appointed by the President will perhaps soon correspond to the 10 FEMA REGIONS and effectively will be under the Secretary of Defense and hence the President in a system of Regional Military Governors over all States, not just the States they might be from, you might just experience a chill up your spine. Note that then all States in essence have been taken over at least on paper by the President and will be administered Militarily. Read carefully Section -2 Functions, of this Executive Order and you will clearly see how inclusive these functions can be……. especially Item e which has language sufficiently broad and loose that a Tank Battalion could be driven through it.

Americans had better understand that this Executive Order along with all of those previously signed ,and with Presidential Decision Directive 51 and others will be used to destroy the Constitution and Bill of Rights and to render each American effectively into nothing more than a member of a work gang subject to control of the Regional Military Governor who is under the Secdef who is under the President. Posse Comitatus then is dead, Habeas Corpus is dead, Bill of Rights is dead, and only the whims and subjective decisions of the Regional Military Governor, as directed by the President via the Secretary of Defense and executed by Northcom troopers who now include U.S. , Canadian, Mexican, and other Foreign troops as well as Mercenaries and the States’ National Guards, Militias, and Police agencies will be the Iron Fist Rule of the Land.

Is this what the Founding Fathers would be proud of or would they say we have come full circle and that now We the People should invoke the Declaration of Independence once again and be ready on Lexington Green and prepositioned at Concord Bridge ? I think I know what Thomas Jefferson, Patrick Henry, Sam Adams, and old “Swamp Fox” would say.

Here is the official White House document. Click on this link for the PDF of the Executive Order. Read it and weep for America.

[no1toolmkr]

I'm starting to get the idea you schmoooozy liberals are petrified of debating me for some reason....

funny...