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Many spiritual believes, accept the concept of karma. My question is:
If I am an instrument of someone's karma, do I have to come back to earth and pay for being used for such endeavor? So for example, say I kill someone, then I come back to get killed and pay off that debt, does the person who does the killing this time has to come back and pay off that action? and if so, when does it stop?
Like the christian Judah; if it werent for him there would be no christianity, so is he a bad guy?

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Hi Assunta,


I don't know the answer to your question. I just want to share him with anyone who might be open to his straight talk. I found a book by him in 2006 or so and my luck, he passed away from prostrate cancer the same year. I just don't want to post my opinion when i really don't know the answer. I feel whatever happens this life or next life, it is all good and the less we let our mind be in control and just practice Being, the better we will Be.




http://www.barrylong.org/intro/introduction1a.shtml#right

Barry Long was a Western spiritual master. A spiritual master is a source of original knowledge and a God-realised man who speaks the truth.

WHAT IS THE TRUTH?

The truth is the reality behind existence or the sense-perceived world. To speak the truth is to be able to speak from this place and reveal the meaning and purpose of life in existence.

'I speak and write only of love and truth.'
'Most people are not ready for love and truth. They want entertainment, excitement, information and change - satisfaction. So they read newspapers, magazines, novels, watch television, listen to the radio and have interesting debates and discussions.

We all enjoy these things to a degree. But when they are the main focus of our lives, or of the people around us, we start to die inside. We dry up. And often we don't know what's happening. We begin to think there's something wrong with us.

What's happened is that we've tired of the endless search for satisfaction that never satisfies. We've started to mature. We now want fulfilment, something lasting. We long for love and truth.

Love and truth are not information. Information is what is added to you, like all the data stored in your memory.

Love and truth are knowledge - self knowledge, original knowledge, the knowledge of the depths of your being. So when I speak to you of love and truth I don't really tell you anything new. I merely reflect the knowledge of what you are - buried in your memory under all the information of what you think you are.'
Wow Wyndra! This is awesome! and I will look for his books. Thanks for caring enough to share him!
Assunta
My heart is full just feeling your response about it all. I know i searched high and low and finally found a person where it just clicked for me. Im sooo happy to share him with you. If you pull him up on Utube, he seems cranky or rude...but he is not, he is just trying to get whatever point accross. I wish i had discovered him way earlier then i did but it is what it is. Thank you for being open to me and Barry's concept or whatever one would want to call it. That Eckert Tolle (spelling might be off) admitted lately that he studied under Barry. When I read Eckert (spelling still may be wrong) i was like...this is so Barry!) l
Love,
wendy
You are welcome Wendy! I think we are in an age of enlightenment and more and more people want to search for the divine spark inside. More and more are questioning the religious dogmas and people like you, just by sharing, are helping with the answers. I am an esthetician and spend hours and days in a quiet room, with soft music, one on one with very relaxed clients and I have noticed that 80% of the people I see, now start a spiritual conversation with me. I've never seen that before!
I have checked Barry on U-tube and have listened to some spiritual masters before him; they all seem so direct and cut and dry! Not rude, just sure of what they are saying! Its what I expect of a master, no matter if he/she is a spiritual one or not. I found Tolle's books to be kind of hard to read, but Barry's logic seemed easier to follow, at least when listening to him talk, I will get one of his books and see. Do you suggest one in particular to start with?
Thanks again Wendy and have a blessed day!
Assunta :)
Thanks Assunta.
I too love his directness and his passion. My first book i "found" in a used book store in Asheville N.C. was called The Way In. I also ordered Loving & Living without attachment which is 3-tape-set in which he answers questions from men and women about fear of love, familiarity and heartbreak.It says that this talk was in 2002. If you order off the website,the book is being shipped from Australia,so to get it cheaper,you may want to email the people in New York (email address is on the website i believe) and order from them instead of the website.
I had to look up what a esthetician is That job description you gave sure does appeal to me! Sounds like a heavenly workplace! Your clients must be feeling your openess about spiritual matters im guessing.

I wish you a blessed day(life) as well!

wendy
Thanks for the info. Wendy,
An esthetician does facials, body wraps, body waxing, chemical peels and a bunch of other stuff too. She/he can work in a dermatologist office, in Spas or owning her own business. In ceratin States one doesnt even need a certification which is not a good thing as we work with people's skin and many times I have sent clients to the dermatologist with suspicious moles, plus we use some pretty aggressive products at times and I oculdnt imagine not being licensed. It took me one year to get licensed, then I had to take a State test, written and practical. I learned all the muscles of the face, and upper body, the different ingredients in skin care, diseases of the skin...etc...different machinery...anyway, its a lot of stuff, but I love my job! and it was worthed!
Thanks again Wendy and have a blessed day as well!
Assunta
and my real name for you is Wendy,...not wyndra
Got it :) Sorry! :)
It don't matter, but we are talking truth, ....so hadda say im wendy not wyndra, but you can call me wyndra...or whatever.."..Is your real name you go by "Assunta"??? Just checking....
Yes, Assunta is my real name. I'm from Italy and Assunta, in the region that I am from, its a very common name. It was my grandma's in fact!
I agree wholeheartedly with your reply here Wyndra,
I haven't thought about Barry Long for a long time in my life now,
even though I have quite a number of the old small tapes he made over 20 odd years ago,
(including a series on `Making Love`), I think we are wise to try to achieve a `balance` in our lives.
In fact there exists a well-known Psychologist's Grid explaining how we can divide our days,
weeks, months, etc into deliberate sections in order that we have a degree of harmony within
ourselves and that of our family.
Thoughts are all we are, every single thing starts with a thought,
and then that thought determines an action.

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