THE HARD TRUTH ABOUT OBAMACARE!

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It's worse then you thought:  

The Hard Truth about Obamacare

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i thought it was mildly ironic that the wall street cheat sheet has an article critical of obamacare because '5.2 million americans will fall thru the cracks'. ironic because we have had 47 million people uninsured and that didn't seem to be a problem for the captains of industry or the right wing. but even IF 5.2 million is a correct figure, then going from about 15 per cent uninsured to about 1.5 per cent uninsured surely must rate as some kind of a success after a 100 years of trying...

oh and the complaints about hiked premiums in some cases are true...but in some cases that's because the health plans that people had were CRAP and under obamacare there are guidelines that plans have to meet

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The hard truth about ObamaCare is the hard truth of the provision of medical services and health care in general, it is expensive, of varying quality and quantity and subject to clear economic problems as to hard to provide it and then how to pay for it and the results obtained.

With is and will happen to ObamaCare is the it has to face reality not politics which includes having to explain what is happening and what is going to happen.  The roll out of the federal exchanges is abysmal, hard to defend and expected and someone has to take responsibility for what happen, why it happened and take the blame as we move on as to whether the actual signup numbers will generate the viable numbers that are required to make the launch of the first year of the insurance plans acceptable.  

And yes, there are going to be problems, plenty of them, but not talking about them is not going to cure what is going to be the changes necessary, and yes, there are a lot of moving parts, not all are going to mesh well.

 

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Almost every other country has its "Obamacare", and almost every one of those countries has both a better healthcare record and cheaper healthcare than this country too.

What is the real reason you don't want "Obamacare"?  Profits?  You guys sound more like organized crime like the mafia that will say and do anything to protect your mob bosses CEOs.  

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The U.S. stands almost entirely alone among developed nations that lack universal health care.

If they're so developed, whose fault is that and why are those fools so stupid?

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gotta love this...

Former Fla. governor told Texas senator to come up with an alternative

By Benjamin Bell 3 hours ago

During an interview for "This Week," former Republican Florida Gov. Jeb Bush encouraged Texas Republican Sen. Ted Cruz - who told ABC News that he would do "anything" to stop Obamacare - to come up with an alternative and show some restraint if his aim was to repeal the president's signature healthcare law.

"I think the best way to repeal Obamacare is to have an alternative; we never hear the alternative…we could do this in a much lower cost with improved quality based on our principles, free market principles…and two, show how Obamacare, flawed to its core, doesn't work," Bush said.

"So have a little bit of self-restraint. It might actually be a politically - a better approach to see the massive dysfunction," he said, after being asked by ABC's Jonathan Karl what his message would be for Cruz, who is still keen on repealing Obamacare.

Bush said the linking of government funding to the funding of Obamacare by Republicans was a tactical misstep.

and one of the cruz supporters commented...."We all know if you lay out an alternative that the people like his opponents would steal those ideas and blame him for everything else "

and THAT, boys and girls, is why the secret republican healthcare plan is a secret even from all republicans....(the mind boggles at the idiocy, does it not?)

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Generally, the “alternative” offered by republicans is vouchers.  But they rarely go beyond that to present any specifics. One of the major failings of American health coverage is the obscene cost of health care in the U.S.  Neither republicans nor ObamaCare adequately addresses that issue.

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18% or so and rising of the Gross National Product, and as such a tax on alternative uses of the money if it weren't spent on medical and health care costs.  And yes, no other nation is facing such a drain.  However, what is an expense for one sector of the economy is revenue and income to another, which is one of the biggest dilemmas in what medical and health care commitment means to the American economy as to jobs and growth.

Health care is a unique product in that it is generated and consumed domestically and as such the dollars stays home.  It is also one of the most important export industries we have in selling products and services to others.  Health care is also a magnet to attract foreign personal, primarily foreign born and trained physicians to provide for the necessary support for the delivery system and keep it viable.

And yes, it is complicated, expensive and all the options have consequences, including ObamaCare.

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"Health care is a unique product in that it is generated and consumed domestically and as such the dollars stays home."

unfortunately this is changing as well. there is a growing export of medical dollars to countries like india as medical tourism grows. people can opt to travel to india and other countries for medical procedures and some of the insurance companies are tickled by the cost savings

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Geez Ex, you have the whole rest of the worlds' experience to prove you are wrong about this.  Only the US has a political party with an idiotology directly opposed to the best interests of it sown people.

It's enough to make an intelligent man believe in supernatural evil and Satan.

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Vouchers for a system designed to put the deficit through the ceiling if we don't do something about it -- like the ACA.   Universal Heath Care would have been better, but we have a nice guy who is President to tried to compromise with the Devil.

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Their are some who believe, probably some who have permanent housing on the grassy knoll, that it is a progressive plot to have had Pelosi pass the ACA, ObamaCare, the 2,000 page law that you get to find out what is in it only if you pass it, as a setup to failure, and open the way to single payer Medicare extension as the only practical alternative way to solve the problems endemic with ObamaCare.    

But then again, there are always someone who has a conspiracy explanation, like, we are soon to have to observe the 50th anniversary about the Grassy Knoll. 

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OK, let's talk about the right's belief system.  Talk about coo-coo for cocoa puffs -- strictly medical term, used to describe a patient or person that has delved into a realm of irrational, illogical and/or crazy thought processes:

Obama is not American because he's black but Cruz is a US Citizen even though he was born in Canada

Rand Paul believes distorting the facts is not just lying

Romney Republicans believe in etch-a-sketch facts depending on who he's talking too.

I can't go on, I'm getting nauseous....but the facts are you make them up.  What the right really beliefs in is -- who knows, they're all a pathological liars. Sick man, sick.