If you like your health care, you can keep it PERIOD

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Well well my liberal apologist friends. Seems like the president has been caught in a huge lie. For the past 5 years liberals have been providing cover for the dishonest statements the president has made. There is NO CONFUSION on this. Now we have the white House admitting it!!! So how many other lies have you believed? Benghazi was a spontaneous reaction to a You Tube video? He didn't know anything about the IRS targeting tea party groups? He didn't know anything about the NSA spying?

NBC News reported Monday that sources deeply involved in ObamaCare concede that 50 to 75 percent of the 14 million consumers who buy their insurance individually can expect to have coverage canceled in the next year.

Can you imagine the howling in this group if Bush had done this?

http://nypost.com/2013/10/29/white-house-finally-admits-obamacare-t...

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"Obama administration officials knew when the regulations were written in 2010 that 40 to 67 percent of consumers on the individual market would lose coverage, NBC said." -from nypost article

NBC is not a right wing outlet.

The statements about keeping your insurance and doctor were repeated numerous times like a mantra.

It was said for a purpose. Do you suppose that it might have been to try to sell people on the ACA (maybe I am making a stretch)? To try and assure us?

So if this assurance has not been kept and people are being affected negatively by it (whether it is 10 or 200 million) than what will those that made these promises do to correct the situation and rectify things?

When one makes false statements to promote their agenda (yes that is correct "agenda" even if one believes it to be a good agenda because that is what it is) and thereby distorts the facts so that the truth is not understood and in essence misleads others (which is the whole country) it is no small thing. It is not just whether it was a lie, but what are the dynamics of situation.

Comparing this to Bush is completely irrelevant.

Bush did tons of things that I disagreed with, I can't speak for others but I know many feel as I do. I was neutral on the war, meaning that I did not know what all the facts were, and I hoped for the best. But the congress voted to go not just Bush. I do believe that there was a personal agenda with Bush. Anyone can argue whether this clouded his mind or was it always devious from the get go. I don't need to defend him nor rail against him. Let the facts come to light. Take it to trial if the evidence is there. I want to support the truth.

But it seems like many here want to try and defend stuff that they know is wrong. Why?

It was wrong to promise something and repeat it to pass legislation when there was no evidence for it to be factual. What was the evidence? And bottom line is if this was a sincere promise than the same promissory will do anything possible to make good on it, yes?


I will wait to see.

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i'm not trying to defend things that were wrong but what kind of a complete asshole thinks the office is degraded since the bush administration was the point.

the quote is from anonymous sources tho it was repeated by nbc. well anonymous sources also told me that rush limbaugh dresses up as tinkerbell on sex night at the limbaughs...true or false it is just gossip till the provenance is known

  as far as being able to keep your doctor and your health insurance: the whining about some companies cancelling policies fails to note that the policies don't meet the standards that are now law. but as far as i know existing policies can be grandfathered in tho that is at the discretion of the insurance companies to pursue that. it is important to note that the govt has no way to compel a doctor to take insurance patients nor to compel an insurance company to sell any insurance at all. it is up to the insurance company what the terms and qualifications of a policy are as long as they meet the now existing guidelines. i actually applaud the guidelines because that helps make some sense in that marketplace instead of leaving the consumer to try to compare apples and oranges and, as a result of the intentional confusing, often end up with crap policies that provided little real benefits to the insured but lots of benefits to the underwriter.