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Comment by A4L 1 hour ago
I am not even sure if this is the right place to comment. Not use to using this site yet.
I just wanted to thank you Problem Again for replying to some of the things that I said. I really appreciate it. I have to get my kid ready this morning to go out so I will try to respond a bit more in the future.
If you could connect more dots for me I would like that very much.
"No matter what one says I fail to understand how the economy is not a reflection of mostly democratic policies since the dems have controlled congress since 2006 (that is 7 years of mostly democratic policies as I calculate)"
You started off with this:
"it takes a slightly longer view to see it...like going back to the neoconservative sweeps in the 80's"
I am specifically looking for what policies that reps have enacted that have us with so much unemployment and underemployment today?
If you looked at the beginning of Larry Walker's article, he is saying: Black Unemployment Rate Closer to 37.9%.
The minimum wage is presently the highest that it has ever been, and yet we have this scenario.
Milton Friedman said in his article that the minimum wage had proven through time to bring about lower employment numbers for the same group than it had been historically before when he spoke back in the 60's.
You don't need to agree with anything and neither do I, but if nothing else my goal is to establish that well meaning people come to honest conclusions that seem to be completely at odds due to information that comes out in direct opposition to other information.
And that again is why I believe that it is in everyone's best interest to just share info like it were different theories and help each other evaluate the plausibility of things.
thanks again for your response and your articles. I thought what I read on the Olive Garden made some good points, regarding "what an employee makes vs. what they are actually paid."
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Permalink Reply by LoveLife&Laughter on
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Increasing the Minimum Wage: Pros & Cons
Will Increasing the Minimum Wage Hurt or Help Employees & Businesses?
For many American workers, minimum-wage employment was a temporary, teenage condition, as we bussed tables or answered phones or cleaned rooms for tiny paychecks before moving on to more financially rewarding work.
However in 2011, 3.8 million American workers -- most of whom were out of their teens -- earned the federal minimum wage of $7.25 per hour or less, according to estimates by the U.S. Bureau of Labor Statistics. And recently, debate has heated up about whether the government should raise the minimum wage, increasing both the earnings of the lowest-level employees and the costs for employers.
Advocates for a higher wage floor argue, first and foremost, that it is right to ensure that workers to earn enough to live on.
An employee working a 40-hour week at the federal minimum wage would earn $15,080 per year. This income would leave a two-person household -- say, a single parent with one child -- just below the federal poverty threshold of $15,130.
About 70 percent of minimum wage employees, however, work fewer than 35 hours per week and thus earn proportionately less, according to federal labor statistics.
Sen. Tom Harkin, D-Iowa, has introduced legislation that would raise the federal minimum wage to $9.80 -- about $20,400 for a year of full-time work -- within two years. In subsequent years, the required pay rate would be increased each year by the same percentage that the federal Consumer Price Index rises.
Supporters of increasing the minimum wage also contend that such a move would act as economic stimulus. When low-income households earn more money, they are likely to spend it, pouring more dollars into the economy, the argument goes.
In fact, a recent study by the Federal Reserve Bank of Chicago concluded that, following an increase in the minimum wage, spending by households with at least one minimum-wage worker increased by $700 per quarter.
"By increasing workers' take-home pay, families gain both financial security and an increased ability to purchase goods and services, thus creating jobs for other Americans," concluded left-leaning Washington, D.C.-based think tank the Economic Policy Institute in a brief supporting minimum wage increases.
A higher minimum wage might also decrease turnover and thus keep training costs down, supporters say.
Those who oppose an increase to the minimum wage, however, argue that the effects on employment rates would be exactly the opposite of those supporters foresee. A higher minimum wage, they claim, would be too heavy a burden on employers, especially small business owners. And those employers, in turn, would be unable to hire as many people -- an undesirable result when unemployment continues to hover at about 8 percent.
"When legislators raise the price of low- and unskilled labor, it’s usually low- and unskilled laborers who end up paying the price," Boston Globe columnist Jeff Jacoby wrote in a piece last week.
Young workers willing to accept $5 per hour for low-level work or to gain valuable experience should be allowed to do so, Jacoby argued, especially if the alternative is being unable to find a job at all.
Furthermore, increasing the minimum wage has not proven to be effective at lowering the poverty rate, according to the business-backed nonprofit Employment Policies Institute.
"Multiple studies have demonstrated little to no relationship between a higher minimum wage and reductions in poverty," the institute says, in a policy brief.
Where does this all leave the minimum wage? Harkin's bill has been referred to committee, which means it is several legislative steps away from becoming a law. And in a highly polarized election season, action on such a controversial issue is unlikely.
So it looks like the minimum wage will probably be staying right where it is for some time to come.
What do you think? Would a higher minimum wage help to economy or hurt it?
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Permalink Reply by A4L on
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Thank you LLL for putting an article out that provided both pros and cons!!! :0)
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Black Unemployment Rate Closer to 37.9%.
Racist conservatism spin cherry-picks "facts".
The fact is, For Black teens (16-19), unemployment was 37.9% (an increase from 36.6% in July). For Black female teens, unemployment stood at 33.0% (a decrease from 35.4% in July). For Black male teens, unemployment was 43.6% (an increase from 37.9% in July). Teen unemployment rates are extremely volatile from month to month.
(No shit Sherlock)
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Just curious if you are calling the black writer a racist?
That is always fun:)
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Yes.
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Permalink Reply by ProblemAgain on
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the point of the olive garden piece is the extreme unctuousness of the pr flack...essentially the spokesperson was giving the darden corporation credit for the tips the servers received. and there really ARE restaurants that use a formula that deducts from minimum wage compensation for projected tips by customers which is why some pay as low as 90 cents an hour. if you notice in his spin, nowhere did he actually separate out what they were paid versus their income. another point is that servers at restaurants don't put all the tips in their own pocket. there is a split with other members of the staff thus reducing their income yet again.
this has to do with a certain amount of belief versus reality that seems to be highly prevalent amongst certain members of the right wing. thus a new miss america with dark skin becomes a muslim arab terrorist because the commentators are too f'ing ignorant to know the difference regarding ethnic backgrounds, geography or differing religions and they are proud of that ignorance.
some examples?
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just so you see it ain't just cletus from the trailer home park donchaknow? this is actual institutionalized ignorance blessed and encouraged by the right wing and its spokespersons..
Fox News host: new Miss America, Nina Davuluri, doesn’t ‘represent American values’
The crowning of Miss New York, Nina Davuluri, as Miss America should have been, to paraphrase her platform, a celebration of diversity through cultural competency. But in the hours after her victory, Twitter became a frank demonstration of American incompetence in matters relating to both ethnicity and geography.
“Well they just picked a Muslim for Miss America. That must’ve made Obama happy. Maybe he had a vote,” said one user.
“I am literally soo mad right now a ARAB won. #MissAmerica” wrote another.
It should go without saying that Davuluri, a Syracuse native of Indian descent, is neither Muslim nor an Arab. But according to Fox News Radio host Todd Starnes, the American-born Davuluri doesn’t “represent American values,” unlike the blonde-haired, blue-eyed contestant from Kansas, Theresa Vail.
This is not to say that Vail isn’t an unprecedented contestant in her own right: she’s spent five years in the Kansas Army National Guard and is double-majoring in chemistry and Chinese at Kansas State University. But, according to Starnes on Facebook, she lost because “the liberal Miss America judges were not interested in a gun-toting, deer-hunting, military veteran.”
But at least, from Starnes’s perspective, she was a lady, “although I’m sure the gender-neutral crowd is plotting.”
translation? she ain't white and descended from europeans so she ain't a real american
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first example....
WASHINGTON (AFP) - The upcoming UN report on climate change is not likely to rattle US deniers of global warming who hold sway in the halls of power, experts say.A hefty analysis of the latest science on global climate change, the report is packed with recommendations for policymakers.It will be released at the Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change (IPCC) next week, though most Republicans in the US government are expected to dismiss it outright."The IPCC report will help for the observers and the public to understand where the majority of the scientists' opinion stands," said Alden Meyer of the Union of Concerned Scientists."But I don't think it will change the mind of the hard core deniers."Meyer added: "We don't call them skeptics, because they are not putting forward alternatives ideas and having them tested in a peer review journals. They basically deny this problem."Climate skeptics and deniers dominate the House of Representatives, but Meyer said some legislators admit privately that the science is correct and that global warming is being exacerbated by fossil fuel use."But they cannot say it because they will be challenged in the primary (elections in 2014) by the Tea Party," the ultraconservative wing of the Republican party.
http://news.yahoo.com/un-climate-report-not-sway-us-deniers-0207166...
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NRA's LaPierre on Navy Yard shootings: 'There weren't enough good guys with guns'
Dylan Stableford, Yahoo! News 6 hours agoIn his first public comments since last week's shootings at the Washington Navy Yard, a defiant National Rifle Association executive vice president Wayne LaPierre called for more armed security on U.S. military bases.
"This is a tragedy that should not have happened, a memorial service that should not be taking place, and victims that should not be victims," LaPierre said in an interview with David Gregory on NBC's "Meet The Press" S.... "In a post-9/11 world, a naval base within miles from Congress, the White House, seven miles from here, largely left unprotected. A terrorist target, a high-value terrorist target completely unprotected. That can't stand. [The] N.R.A. is calling today for layers of security around our military bases."
Just as he did in the wake of the shootings in Newtown, Conn., LaPierre called for more guns — not less — in an effort to protect potential victims of gun violence.
"The whole country, David, knows the problem is there weren't enough good guys with guns," LaPierre said. "When the good guys with guns got there, it stopped."http://news.yahoo.com/nra-lapierre-navy-yard-shooting-meet-the-pres...
but unfortunately mr lapierre has no credibility regarding firefights and such since he has never served in ANY capacity or theater where such expertise is called into play
Q. Did National Rifle Association (NRA) spokesman Wayne LaPierre ever serve in the military? He's the right age for Vietnam. The reason I ask is that virtually every person I know who is into guns has never served in combat -- or even the military. -- C.J., of Columbia
A. You can add Mr. LaPierre to your list. Born Nov. 8, 1948, LaPierre, now 64, was indeed at the height of his Selective Service eligibility during the Vietnam War in the mid to late 1960s.
But like me and untold thousands of other young men at the time, the NRA CEO spent those years in college with deferments. As a result, the primary enemies he has kept figuratively in his sights for the past 35 years are those whom he sees chipping away at the Second Amendment.
If you're interested in his background, LaPierre earned a bachelor's in education in 1972 from Siena College in Loudonville, N.Y., followed by a master's in government from Boston College. He soon went into lobbying and has spent his life in government and political advocacy.
After serving as a legislative aid, LaPierre joined the NRA in 1977 as a liaison for the NRA's Institute of Legislative Action. He quickly rose through the ranks, becoming the NRA-ILA's executive director in 1986 and the group's overall executive direct in 1991.
He also has served on the boards of such groups as the American Association of Political Consultants and the American Conservative Union. His title now is CEO and executive vice president of the NRA, which is thought to pay him roughly a million per year.
http://www.bnd.com/2013/02/04/2483628/wayne-lapierre-never-served-i...
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and just so people comprehend the reality...
US study finds link between gun ownership and homicide
Researchers in the United States claim to have established a convincing statistical link between gun ownership and homicide, according to a new study.
The study, which appears in the American Journal of Public Health, challenges the National Rifle Association's claim that increased gun ownership does not lead to higher levels of gun violence.
Covering 30 years from 1981 and all 50 US states, it determined that for every one percentage point in the prevalence of gun ownership in a given state, the firearm homicide rate increased by 0.9 percent.
In the absence of state-level data on household gun ownership, the study used a proxy variable -- the percentage of a state's suicides committed with a firearm -- that has been validated in previous research.
The study, led by Boston University community health sciences professor Michael Siegel, is the first of its kind since the December 2012 mass shooting of 20 children at Sandy Hook Elementary School in Newtown, Connecticut.
http://news.yahoo.com/us-study-finds-between-gun-ownership-homicide...
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we need more good guys with guns...right ...as tho being a good guy makes you a good shot and a bigger gun makes you an even better shot right?
Lawmaker Leading Call for Arming Teachers Accidentally Shot a Teacher
A Republican state senator from Arkansas who is leading a legislative committee on the subject of giving guns to school teachers accidentally shot a teacher during an "active shooter" drill earlier this year, the local paper of record has uncovered.
State Sen. Jeremy Hutchinson put forward a proposal in the wake of last December's mass shooting event at Sandy Hook Elementary School that would allow law enforcement officials to deputize teachers and other staff members, effectively putting them in charge of school safety.
But an embarrassing item in today's Arkansas Democrat-Gazette might make other local politicians wary of placing the gun debate in Hutchinson's hands:
After the shooting at Sandy Hook Elementary School in Connecticut, Hutchinson became interested in arming school personnel, he said. He was invited to attend an 'active shooter' training and - using a rubber bullet-loaded pistol - he mistakenly shot a teacher who was confronting a 'bad guy.'
The experience gave Hutchinson some pause, but he still supports giving schools the authority to decide how best to secure their campuses.Interestingly, an item on the training exercise published by the office of Rep. Kim Hammer, who was also in attendance, omitted the part about Hutchinson shooting someone, but did include this priceless quote:
“It was intense, enlightening and when we weren’t being shot, it was fun,” said Sen. Hutchinson. “I learned how little I knew about school safety.”
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