Vanished

[Wayne Goodwin]

How would a person Vanish , Disappear from the mainstream of life ?

[Wayne Goodwin]

Yes the one's that employers match ...

[ProblemAgain]

and that the illegals never collect on so it goes into the pool to pay you...see? and they don't file for the return of their income taxes because the filing would raise red flags so they consider the taxes taken out of their checks as part of the mordida that comes from  working del norte..some run up hospital bills..just as some mcdonalds employees or walmart employees run them up too. anytime you have people being paid too little to afford insurance and not provided with insurance thru work, how are they supposed to get medical attention?

[Shadowman]

And of course everyone pays sales tax, liquor tax, gas tax, tobacco taxes, etc. The price of a haircut, restaurant meal, part for a car, etc. all goes into the Gross Domestic Product.

[Kim]

Well...I'm not so sure how secure all that is anyway...  after MY experience.  When I was born and a day or 2 after the  birth certificate was FILED, my MOM heard a HIDEOUS (to HER) nickname and decided from then on to call me by my middle name to avoid it. OF COURSE, I KNEW my first name but I NEVER used it, it never really came up that I had to...not MUCH! When I went to do my first driver's license's renewel when I was about 25 (I drove LATER than most people), I lived in Tennessee and asked the DMV person if I could have my middle name first because if i were in a terrible accident, they would PULL the sheet over my head because I would have NO IDEA they were calling ME. She said, Good POINT but they HAD to put 3 names on the license SO I put my FIRST name, MAIDEN name, and MARRIED name. It WORKED....for 20 years or so.

I was SO SICK to my stomach when we had driven 6 hours to board a cruise ship and saw THIS SIGN: "Your name on your license must EXACTLY match the name on your birth certificate"  My PISSY ex wasnt PHYSICALLY abusive but THIS would be something I would have to hear about on the 6 hour drive BACK HOME and the rest of my life!! Well, when I got up to the desk, I explained the situation, they called someone on the phone and APPROVED it in under a minute and sent me on the cruise...

SO...fast forward about  5 years later...I move BACK to my hometown and go up to get a PA license to be told that BOTH my BIRTH CERTIFICATE "AND" my SOCIAL SECURITY card was NOT LEGIT. YES, I KNEW my birth certificate was handwritten but I never knew it was WRONG. Upon further examination, I realized it was my MOTHER's writing. Hey, this SUCKER got me into Haiti, Mexico, and my kids both got their licenses which i had to produce my birth certificate. I even got a couple jobs!!

Lucky for SEVERAL people, maybe hundreds, I didnt set out to hurt anyone with my BOGUS documents.

[Shadowman]

Kim, you may want to get the Tombstone chiseled out ahead of time. You never know what they will put on there. :-)  We could fill a whole new thread for name stories. I use to work in a Federal Bureacracy that processed certain types of loans. There was a woman borrower that happened to get married and divorced every couple of years. This always required a name change that in a bureacracy always was a lot of grief. After a while I wanted to see a law passed that would forbid anyone from changing their name and anyone using a name with more than one hyphen should have to do community service. ;-)

[Wayne Goodwin]

Most of my life i have used my middle name . Every body knew me as Wayne . My first name is Donald . No one ever call me by Donald . Sure i used it for everything that acquired the use of Donald . One day at work i had gotten a call . No body knew my first name . All they ever called me was Biggon and every thing else in the book . The lady came to me and asked me if i knew a Donald . Had to tell her yes .

[frenchy]

well in this day and age its sooo much harder to do .. back in the 70's before they had computers on every desk hooked up to every agency you ever wanted to know anything about in 10 seconds or less you could just disappear into the woodwork .. but now ?? nope .. way too hard .. remember that show the fugitive ?? it could never happen in this day and age unless the person had really extensive knowledge about how social security and drivers licenses and banks worked .. and even then it would still be hard .. witness protection they could because then the gubment is in on all the identity changes .. but otherwise ?? unless you knew all the ins and outs , there's just too many ways to track you down if you don't know how to cover your trail .. welcome to the brave new world .. 1984 .. and big brother is watchin you .. 

1984Knockin' on your doorWill you let it come?Will you let it run your life?
Someone will be waiting for you at your doorWhen you get home tonightAh yes, he's gonna tell you darkness gives you much moreThan you get from the light
Classic plastic guards well they're your special friendHe sees you every nightWell he call himself the brother but you know it's no gameYou're never out of his sight
1984Knockin' on your doorWill you let it come?Will you let it run your life?
It's time you started thinking inside your headThat you should stand up and fightOh just where will you be when your freedom is deadWon't you listen tonight?
Those classic plastic coppers, they are your special friendsThey see you every nightWell they call themselves protection but they know it's no gameYou're never out of their sight
1984Knockin' on your doorWill you let it come?Will you let it run?
1984Knockin' on your doorWill you let it come?Will you let it run?

this one was banned from am radio back in 1970 .. too controversial .. all about the plastic coppers and standin up and fightin before your freedom is dead .. who knew it would turn out to be so true .. just took a little longer than 1984 to get this way .. but its not gonna get any less free than it is now .. everytime some asshole does some kinda crazy shit we all lose a bit more of our personal freedom in the name of homeland security .. and i'm not so sure its 100% wrong .. and the thing that gets me is somebody can steal your identity and clean out your bank account and they know who he is and can't care less .. makes you wonder don't it ??