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the sterling silver show .. anybody else watchin this ??

unless you've been under a rock for the last few weeks you've probably heard about the owner of the L.A . clippers don sterling and what he said .. i've been watchin this and i'll be honest i don't like what he said but in order to understand what went on here you have to know all the facts .. most of it is just the sensational blurbs that go by .. he's a racist and he should be forced out of the nba league for what he said .. but if you dig deeper its not as simple as that .. why did he say what he said ?? from what i can gather from all this in a word .. jealousy .. plain and simple .. i think dean martin said it best years ago when he married a 23 year old and he was like 63 or somethin .. there's nothin worse than an old fool in love .. don sterling is an 81 year old man who fell for a 31 year old woman named v. stiviano .. why?? sex of course .. she propositioned him and he fell for it all hook line and sinker .. but she's no ordinary 31 year old woman .. according to friends who knew her she is doin just what they expect from her .. they're not surprised at all .. this is a woman who's changed her name 4 or 5 times over the last few years because of run ins with the law or she's tryin to reinvent herself when things aren't goin as smooth as she expects .. she fancies herself as some kind of self made business mogul when all she's really done is use sex to get what she wants which translates to a prostitute , only on a higher level than most .. she was so good that don sterling gave her two not one but two bentleys , a ferrari and a range rover along with a 1.8 million dollar house .. when don's wife found out she was livid and confronted her about it and said she was gonna have to give that stuff back because don was sufferein from dementia and didn't know what he was doin .. don's wife had been on the verge of divorcin him for years and she felt that v. stiviano was gettin part of her marital assets .. so v. told don's wife you're gonna pay for this and what did she do ?? she taped don sayin the things he said and leaked it to the media .. thats a fine payback ain't it ?? the wife confronts her so she turns on don the hand that fed her .. you wanna talk about the mistress from hell ?? and what did don say exactly on them tapes ?? he was sayin i don't care if you screw all these guys just don't bring them to my games and do it under my nose because people i know will ask me about it .. ( meanin she was supposed to be his girlfriend why was she messin around with all these other guys ) i think don thought that spendin over 2 million on her and givin her 250k in cash bought him some sort of aligience and loyalty on her part .. ( which it didn't ) yeah he did use the word black and that upset some people but he didn't call them racial names .. he just called them black .. it sounded to me more like a guy would refer to a woman who's redhead a redhead .. again i'm not condonin what he said , but i don't think he meant it the way the media is playin it .. i think he's a little old man who was jealous of the fact that his girlfriend who he paid quite a bit for was still screwin these guys who were black .. i can't say or not if he would have said the same thing if the guys happened to be big tall polocks .. don't you bring them polocks to my games ?? if he had would anybody have cared ?? but the media were like sharks smellin blood in the water .. i actually heard bryant gumbel who is a sportscaster as well as a newscaster compare this incident to the treyvon martin case ?? WTF ?? ARE YOU KIDDIN ME ?? who did don sterling kill ? in what world does this compare ?? even close ?? the only racial statements made in the whole zimmerman trial were made by treyvon himself right before he attacked zimmerman when he called him a creepy ass white cracker ..

this whole thing is the media tryin to build a story out of remark that was made IN PRIVATE from a guy who's feelins were hurt .. now i'm not sure if and when the laws were changed but what v. stiviano did was illegal .. you can't tape a conversation without someone's knowledge and then use it against them .. case in point .. back in the 90's i had my own business .. a video store and a 60 minute photo with a portrait studio and a darkroom for custom enlargements .. in about 98 i could see the writin on the wall so i sold the photo equipment while it was still worth somethin .. made my accountant go crazy cause i did make some money with it .. but i knew that digital was commin and it was gonna come in a big way and soon enough all my photo equipment would be totally worthless .. after the sale i had all that room in the back and thought about puttin in tannin beds ..i did some research and read a story about some shithead in pennsy i think it was who had tannin beds and he put in video camera's and taped just about every woman in town tannin themselves naked without their knowledge .. well somehow the news got out and they tried to arrest him .. but the thing was none of the camera's had sound .. video only so accordin to the law you couldn't tape someone's voice without their knowledge but there was no law about a video with no sound .. so they had no charges to bring him up on .. this made everyone in town livid but the law was if it has sound you're under arrest . no sound .. nothin we can do .. well he went outta business anyway like all the other video stores did but they never prosecutted him and i decided to stay far away from tannin beds .. far as i know tho bein taped without your consent is still inadmissable ..

but in comes this guy mr. silver the new head of the nba and he feels he has to do somethin , even if its wrong cause the media is playin this up , so he bans don sterling for life from the nba .. of course he's gonna need a majority vote from all the other owners to make that happen .. so far most of the owners have been silent .. don sterling hasn't said much but i figured he ain't gonna bow out gracefully and finally he's said he ain't gonna go .. now don sterling is worth over 2 billion dollars which puts him in the top 300 people in the usa far as money goes so he can buy a boatload of lawyers who will fight this and probably keep this in litigation till he dies .. after all he is 81 .. havin 2 billion bucks can buy you some great medical care but they still can't keep you alive forever no matter how much cash you have .. his wife said she'd take over the team but so far i've heard that she can't cause she's a partner with don and if he's banned then she has to be banned too .. now does that make any sense ?? if don commits a crime she goes to jail too ??

so is don sterling biased ?? probably .. but not in the way most of us would consider .. there's a reason that exclusive country clubs won't let someone like you or me join unless of course we have a sponsor who will vouch for us .. why ?? because they don't want to associate with us peeons .. its been goin on since the dawn of time .. the haves and the have nots .. their kids don't go to the same schools our kids go to .. or shop at the same stores we do .. they're biased based on wealth .. and to don sterling its the old upstairs downstairs mentality .. black people are poor .. lets face it when lincoln freed the slaves most of em didn't even get that 40 acres and a mule .. even tho most black people can trace their bloodlines back in the usa longer than most whites they still don't have as much to show for it .. i think don sterling is a small jealous insensitive man .. oblivious to what the average joe goes thru .. intentionally mean and cruel ?? maybe perhaps at times .. money can do that to some people .. was that the case here ?? i'm not so sure i'm convinced of that ..if you heard the tapes its clear that v. stiviano is goading him to the point of actually taunting him .. she ambushed him plain and simple .. there are so many ways to be biased i can't count em all .. but all of em are wrong .. you can be biased because someone is too fat .. in fact louie ck just did a show about it ( i love that louie guy , he always seems to find a way to cut right to the heart of things , crude sometimes yes but he still finds the heart ) you can be biased because people are tall and you're not or because people are short and you're tall .. or because they're bald or skinny .. the list can go on and on .. all of em are wrong .. so again i'm not condonin anything don sterling said .. but at a time like this what makes me feel the worst is nobody is talkin forgiveness .. or another chance .. or even some kind of class on culteral awareness ..some way that we can bring everybody back together as opposed to rippin everything apart .. so instead we're gonna have a lawsuit that goes on and on and just drags this out .. lebron james said if he don't go i'm gonna sit out next season .. good luck lebron , find yourself a comfortable seat cause this is gonna be some kinda landmark case .. and it will set a dangerous precedent .. you can't legislate who someone should like or admire or the way they speak in private ..this is still supposed to be a free country so that means that we have to put up with some insensitive ignorant oblivious people .. otherwise if that was the case then all the players in the nba better be careful because someday somebody might tape them callin a white ref a honkey and if they can toss don sterling out for just sayin the word black then they can and should be able to toss them out too for the same reason .. and what if they find an old video from years back of them callin a white person names ? do they get another chance ?? or is it one strike and you're gone ?? you can't have it both ways ..this can come back to bite more people in the ass then they ever figured .. this is really thin ice they're on here .. what do you guys think ?? i'm pretty sure we're all agreed that his remarks could have been worded differently .. but do you think this warrants a lifetime ban ?? do you think its even legal ??

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Permalink Reply by ProblemAgain on May 16, 2014 at 4:35pm

this is related to the concept.

Town's white police official calls Obama N-word

By LYNNE TUOHY May 15, 2014 6:52 PM

WMUR - Manchester

Residents call for Wolfeboro Police Commissioner resignation

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WOLFEBORO, N.H. (AP) — A police commissioner in a predominantly white New Hampshire town says he won't apologize for calling President Barack Obama the N-word, and he sat with his arms crossed while angry residents at a meeting called for his resignation on Thursday.

Wolfeboro Police Commissioner Robert Copeland, who's 82 and white, has acknowledged in an email to his fellow police commissioners he used the racial slur in describing Obama.

Town resident Jane O'Toole, who moved to Wolfeboro four months ago, said she overheard Copeland say the slur at a restaurant in March and wrote to the town manager about it. Copeland, in an email to her, acknowledged using the slur in referring to the president and said he will not apologize.

"I believe I did use the 'N' word in reference to the current occupant of the Whitehouse," Copeland said in the email to his fellow police commissioners, part of which he forwarded to O'Toole. "For this, I do not apologize — he meets and exceeds my criteria for such."

Copeland, who has declined to be interviewed, is one of three members of the police commission, which hires, fires and disciplines officers and sets their salaries. He ran unopposed for re-election and secured another three-year term on March 11.

About 20 black people live in Wolfeboro, a town of 6,300 residents in the scenic Lakes Region, in the central part of New Hampshire, a state that's 94 percent white and 1 percent black. None of the town police department's 12 full-time officers is black or a member of another minority.

Carroll County Deputy Sheriff Paul Bois, who's black, is one of two officers the town employs part time during the summer to deal with tourists. When asked to comment outside the meeting, he said, "I'd love to, but I can't."

Town Manager David Owen said Thursday that while he finds Copeland's comment "reprehensible," he and the board of selectmen have no authority to remove an elected official. He said he expected a large number of residents would call for Copeland's resignation at the police commission meeting, and they did.

More than 100 people packed into the meeting room at the Wolfeboro Public Library, where librarian Joyce Davis said she can't remember an issue in 40 years that has sparked so much emotion and outcry. Many of the people wore on their shirts handmade stickers saying, "Resign," directed at Copeland.

"Comments like these, especially coming from a public official, are not only inexcusable but also terribly, unfortunately, reflects poorly on our town," said O'Toole, who was met with resounding applause.

Commissioner Ron Goodgame, in response to a challenge from O'Toole about whether he and Commission Chairman Joseph Balboni Jr. endorse Copeland's comments, said, "It's neither my view or Commissioner Balboni's view that the remarks are condoned."

Balboni told the Concord Monitor he didn't plan to ask Copeland to resign. He said after the meeting the three commissioners would meet privately soon to "solve the matter" before making an announcement.

Nearly two dozen speakers at Thursday's meeting called on Copeland to quit, and two spoke in his defense. Resident Frank Bader mocked those who took offense at Copeland's comments in a state that prizes freedom.

"All this man did was express his displeasure with the man who's in office," Bader said.

After Balboni closed the meeting's public comment session, many people in the audience descended on Copeland, who remained seated at the commissioners' table and staunchly refused to engage them.

"I want to think about what's going on and decide," he said.

Permalink Reply by Snagg on May 16, 2014 at 9:55pm

Betcha a dollar that this crotchety old bigot also wouldn't blink at tasing and pepper-spraying anybody who called him a "bigot" or a "racist coward" to his face. Prejudiced assholes always think that the 1st Amendment applies only to them.

Permalink Reply by Lifesighs on May 16, 2014 at 8:57pm

I don't feel sorry for this guy, he is earning his money off the people he puts down and I don't feel sorry for his girlfriend they are both rotten as far as I'm concerned. Apparently he thinks nothing of having a different life away from his wife and flaunting his girlfriend on TV. I hope they throw the book at him and take it all away. I'm sure the girlfriend will find someone else to prostitute herself with although anyone who takes her on is an idiot. They both deserve the humiliation dished out over the media.

Permalink Reply by frenchy on May 17, 2014 at 11:17am

i don't feel sorry for him either ..or his crazy girlfriend .. i was just tryin to understand why he was the way he was .. i think in the end he's gettin what he paid for with her .. far as throwin the book at him he didn't really break any laws ..unless you count being really insensitive as illegal .. and i agree his girlfriend will simply move on and leave more casualties in her wake as she goes .. she'll probably just change her name again .. reinvent herself , and screw somebody else stupid ...

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