teaching men to not be responsible

[ProblemAgain]

so somehow it becomes her fault and she has to pay the penalty for the boys having impure thoughts?

this inculcates the concept that men 'jist ain't responsible fer their johnsons'  to begin with and also says something about the school adminstrator that would make me think about not leaving a 12 year old around him...good job! teach them boys it ain't their fault they pop a chubby....it's them gurls what are to blame!

A 12-YEAR-OLD girl was told she couldn't try out for her seventh-grade American football team because her male teammates were "beginning to have impure thoughts" about her.

Madison Baxter, who attends a private Christian school outside Atlanta, had played football with the sixth-grade team but was told she wasn't welcome at try-outs this year.

She has played the sport since the second grade and comes from a sporting family, with a father and grandfather both football enthusiasts.

But Strong Rock Christian Academy school administrator Patrick Stuart told Madison's mother she couldn't play anymore as the other players in the team would begin lusting after her.

Her mother Cassy Blythe told Atlanta's WXIA-TV: "In the meeting with the CEO of the school, I was told that the reasons behind it were one, that the boys were going to start lusting after her and have impure thoughts about her and that the locker room talk was not appropriate for a female to hear even though she had a separate locker room from the boys.

http://www.news.com.au/lifestyle/parenting/madison-baxter-banned-fr...

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I know I am very very unmovable in my beliefs about abortion. If I offended anyone, that was not my intention. 

But I can not understand that if we heard of someone drowning new born kittens, we would be mortified, yet when it comes to babies, we call it a RIGHT to terminate them. All I ask is that we change the rhetoric as we have for developmentally disabled people and gay people and minorities, etc.

OK.  No more from me.....Carry on.

[ProblemAgain]

one of the problems with discussions of this sort is there are reasonable people on both sides who can disagree...and then there are the others...and on the far right, there are people who simply won't be satisfied till they institute a theocracy (not just any theocracy but their own personal brand to boot)....in the western world we have HAD a few...ireland as one example where essentially The Church had dominion over the political and governing....not only abortion was outlawed but so were contraception and divorce...and it was a crime to even discuss birth control....and if you think it couldn't happen here?

an actual Rick Santorum quote: “One of the things I will talk about, that no president has talked about before, is I think the dangers of contraception in this country.” And also, “Many of the Christian faith have said, well, that’s okay, contraception is okay. It’s not okay. It’s a license to do things in a sexual realm that is counter to how things are supposed to be.”

a simple step of logic to conclude he would be FOR outlawing birth control as well as abortion....and this was a serious contender for the highest office in our country..

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Rick Santorum wears sleeveless sweater vests as his signature outfit. Ugh! Enuff said.

[ProblemAgain]

so did opposition to birth control....hard to imagine it used to be illegal to USE birth control....but it was...and into the 70s too....certain states still have outlawed toys for women.....cause you know once a woman discovers she can turn it on and turn it off and it stays where you leave it....some men are in trouble

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Griswold_v._Connecticut

[Karin M Fichtner]

Some men? Meet my old friend "B.O.B.". He's always available, dependable, energetic, quiet, sanitary, he never looks for someone else to play with, and he's always "in the mood".
If they passed a law against him......I'd hide him out under my mattress.

[frenchy]

just try hidin me under the mattress .. see whatcha get .. 

[Karin M Fichtner]

But you're not contraband, French! I don't hafta hide you.....;-)

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Just reading that in Ohio, the gov singed into legislation that a gag order be put on those speaking with rape victims so that they counselor can not tell the victim she can have an abortion.  Now, regardless of my views on women who get pregnant carelessly having abortions late in the pregnancy, something like THIS is just plain wrong. 

[Karin M Fichtner]

Absolutely, Crest!

[ProblemAgain]

and if the far right can't get its way, they change the rules...

Texas lawmakers reconvene for new abortion fight

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AUSTIN, Texas (AP) — State troopers lined the halls of the Texas Capitol, and 5,000 protesters rallied outside against proposed abortion legislation, as lawmakers convened Monday for a second special session that Republican leaders pledged wouldn't descend into chaos like the first.

The Texas House and Senate each met for less than an hour before recessing for the week. That was just long enough to schedule new committee hearings for the proposed restrictions that would make Texas one of the toughest places in the nation for women to get abortions.

Less than one week earlier, Democrats scored a rare victory in the GOP-dominated Legislature by running out the clock on the first special session.

Democratic Sen. Wendy Davis of Fort Worth was on her feet for more than 12 hours — speaking most of that time — during the Democratic filibuster. When Republicans used parliamentary technicalities to silence her, hundreds of protesters in the public gallery and surrounding Capitol corridors cheered so loudly that work on the bill couldn't be completed before the midnight deadline.

"You're going to see a completely different debate this time around," said Rep. Steve Toth, a Republican from The Woodlands. "We're not under that kind of timeline this time around."

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Lt. Gov. David Dewhurst took no chances with raucous protesters in the second special session on Monday. Security was much tighter than before, with troopers — some of them in riot gear — throughout the Capitol complex.

When protesters filed into the House and Senate galleries, pages provided them with copies of the rules warning them that if they disrupted the proceedings, they'd be ejected. There were no arrests or any incidents of violence reported.

And Dewhurst said the Senate would make one major procedural change as well. Rather than follow tradition and require a two-thirds vote to bring up a bill for consideration, he said it would take only a simple majority during this session. That could prove critical because Democrats hold 12 out of 31 seats and successfully blocked the abortion law during the regular legislative session.

On the House side, State Affairs Chairman Byron Cook, R-Corsicana, said he would only allow less than nine hours of public testimony on the bill. Public protests erupted two weeks ago when he cut off testimony during the last session after 12 hours and denied more than 260 women the chance to speak.

"A wise man once said, nothing good happens after midnight," Cook said, explaining why he was limiting testimony.

http://news.yahoo.com/texas-lawmakers-reconvene-abortion-fight-2302...