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With the burning of the oil in the gulf, I have a few concerns.
I know and knew some people who were greatly affected by the Exxon Valdez oil spill. It seems like so long ago. 1989. The Supreme court finally ruled and people devastated by the negligence of this coroperation finally recieved their "compensation" 23 years later. The "compensation" after the courts got done was about ten cents on the dollar.
So here we are twenty four years later and I see it happening it again. It saddens me. I see the government hasn't done some of the things that were learned. They are supposed to have an environmental assessment team on site immediately. Yet it seem all they are worried about is what happens if the oil reaches shore and not the damage to the wildlife in the ocean. If you like shrimp I would be eating it sooner than later.
While I realize burning is the best way to handle the oil slick and it is better to keep it off shore, it's just the idea that this is nothing more than the cost of doing business. Just as with the Massey mine calamity.
I was wondering after the supreme court ruling, where corporations have the rights of an individual shouldn't they now have the same responsibility. If you spill oil in the water from a fishing boat you can lose your boat. I just think it is time that the people incharge of these corporations be held responsible. If the corporation is neglectful then the officers and board members should be charged.
I am more or less just venting here but would like to here what everyone thinks.
I know and knew some people who were greatly affected by the Exxon Valdez oil spill. It seems like so long ago. 1989. The Supreme court finally ruled and people devastated by the negligence of this coroperation finally recieved their "compensation" 23 years later. The "compensation" after the courts got done was about ten cents on the dollar.
So here we are twenty four years later and I see it happening it again. It saddens me. I see the government hasn't done some of the things that were learned. They are supposed to have an environmental assessment team on site immediately. Yet it seem all they are worried about is what happens if the oil reaches shore and not the damage to the wildlife in the ocean. If you like shrimp I would be eating it sooner than later.
While I realize burning is the best way to handle the oil slick and it is better to keep it off shore, it's just the idea that this is nothing more than the cost of doing business. Just as with the Massey mine calamity.
I was wondering after the supreme court ruling, where corporations have the rights of an individual shouldn't they now have the same responsibility. If you spill oil in the water from a fishing boat you can lose your boat. I just think it is time that the people incharge of these corporations be held responsible. If the corporation is neglectful then the officers and board members should be charged.
I am more or less just venting here but would like to here what everyone thinks.
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Permalink Reply by Bull on
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Not shocked again.
http://www.ufppc.org/us-a-world-news-mainmenu-35/9596-news-purdue-r...
NEWS: Purdue researcher puts Gulf Disaster leak at 70,000 barrels a day
On Thursday, the New York Times said that the size of the Gulf Disaster oil leak is being underestimated, two weeks after we did. -- On Apr. 29 we wrote: "Media are continuing to fail to question the estimates of oil pouring into the Gulf, though any bright ten-year-old would be able to deduce that the estimates being made (1,000 barrels a day, raised Wednesday to 5,000 barrels a day) are most likely vague numbers pulled out of the air -- or in this case, the water." -- A BP senior vice president recently said that "There’s just no way to measure it,” but in fact, it turns out, "for decades, specialists have used a technique that is almost tailor-made for the problem. With undersea gear that resembles the ultrasound machines in medical offices, they measure the flow rate from hot-water vents on the ocean floor. Scientists said that such equipment could be tuned to allow for accurate measurement of oil and gas flowing from the well."[1] -- But the Times didn't say what CNN reported early Friday: that "a researcher at Purdue University has predicted that about 70,000 barrels of oil per day are gushing into the Gulf after analyzing videos of the spill. -- Associate professor Steve Wereley said he arrived at that number after spending two hours Thursday analyzing video of a spill using a technique called particle image velocimetry. He said there is a 20 percent margin of error, which means between 56,000 and 84,000 barrels could be leaking daily."
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Equivalent to an Exxon Valdez every four days. And yes I am sure the oil companies were aware. The reason they didn't release the video for so long, and why they only released 30 seconds when they finally did.
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Sorry about the hooky add but the video is worth a watch, kind of a different spin on the oil spill and oil companies.
http://www.ktuu.com/global/video/popup/pop_playerLaunch.asp?vt1=v&a... by Fridays (May 14)&flvUri=&partnerclipid=
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This is one of those statements that just makes on scratch ones head and say WTF
The National Oceanic and Atmospheric Administration said Monday that the researchers' announcement of the oil plumes was premature and that further tests are needed to confirm that the plumes detected were indeed caused by the blowout.
Read more: http://www.adn.com/2010/05/17/1282543/tar-balls-found-near-florida-...
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This is an article 60 minutes used to do a piece on BP. Much to long to post here, but does show Bp's Corupt Corporate practices.
http://www.truthout.org/whistlelower-bps-other-offshore-drilling-pr...
Whistleblower: BP Risks More Massive Catastrophes in Gulf
by: Jason Leopold, t r u t h o u t | Report
A former contractor who worked for BP claims the oil conglomerate broke federal laws and violated its own internal procedures by failing to maintain crucial safety and engineering documents related to one of the firms other deepwater production projects in the Gulf of Mexico, according to internal emails and other documents obtained by Truthout.
The whistleblower, whose name has been withheld at the person's request because the whistleblower still works in the oil industry and fears retaliation, first raised concerns about safety issues related to BP Atlantis, the world's largest and deepest semi-submersible oil and natural gas platform, located about 200 miles south of New Orleans, in November 2008. Atlantis, which began production in October 2007, has the capacity to produce about 8.4 million gallons of oil and 180 million cubic feet of natural gas per day.
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Permalink Reply by WS on
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Saw the 60 minutes report - we need to stop treating corporations like people and start prosecuting!
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May Be 19 times bigger than originally thought.
http://www.mcclatchydc.com/2010/05/19/94489/gulf-oil-spill-may-be-1...
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Steve Wereley, an associate professor of mechanical engineering at Purdue University in West Lafayette, Ind., earlier this month made simple calculations from a single video BP released on May 12 and calculated a flow of 70,000 barrels a day, NPR reported last week.
On Wednesday, Wereley told a House of Representatives Energy and Commerce subcommittee that his calculations of two leaks that are on videos BP released on Tuesday showed 70,000 barrels from one leak and 25,000 from the other.
He said the margin of error was about 20 percent, making the spill between 76,000 and 104,000 barrels a day. However, Wereley said he'd need to see videos that showed the flow over a longer period to get a better calculation of the mix of oil and gas from the wellhead
Read more: http://www.mcclatchydc.com/2010/05/19/94489/gulf-oil-spill-may-be-1...
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Well Duh!
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2010/05/20/bp-admits-they-underestim_...
BP Admits They Underestimated The Amount Of Oil Leaking As More Washes On Shore
NEW ORLEANS (AP) -- BP conceded Thursday that more oil than it estimated is gushing into the Gulf of Mexico as heavy crude washed into Louisiana's wetlands for the first time, feeding worries and uncertainty about the massive monthlong spill.
Mark Proegler, a spokesman for oil giant BP PLC, said a mile-long tube inserted into a leaking pipe over the weekend is capturing 210,000 gallons a day - the total amount the company and the Coast Guard have estimated is gushing into the sea - but some is still escaping. He would not say how much.
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