The woman, the pig, and the president

[Vernon Windsor]

Although Rush Limbaugh's verbal assault on Sandra Fluke is both hideous and in keeping with the war on women being waged by his political party, even more disturbing is the silence by leading Republicans that seems to indicate tacit approval of his comments. Props to the president for supporting her.

[Vernon Windsor]

Dear Jayson,

My integrity and "open-mindedness" does not now, nor have they ever, needed your approval or indeed your opinion to prove their existence. You do seem to have a problem, but it has nothing to do with me, your "man crush" notwithstanding. I seem to be the only person you are intent on convincing, but I have to tell you, I don't care. I will post and present for discussion anything I want to post. Your approval is neither necessary or even desired. I've said all this before, but as you seem incapable of understanding the message, I won't hold my breath that this time will be any different. So rant away, my friend. Rant until you are blue in the face. Whatever gets you off.

[jayson]

Thought so Vernon, you're all crickets over there. America has changed TREMENDOUSLY with respect to civil rights over the last 40+ years. However like Al and Jessie many are living in the past, and want to myopicly paint everything in a decades old narrative that no longer works. The1960s America where racism against blacks was THE problem is no longer the case. The real problems in this country stem from a lack of personal responsibility and accountability. Any day you want to debate any issue with me I'll gladly put a stop to the single-minded train. Any time you want to take 2 mins to actually check into the realities I have plastered on your pages I'll consider that a sign of integrity and open-mindedness.

[jayson]

Hey Vernon, how are you doing on the research project I gave you seven months ago? Yea no interest in finding out about THOSE FACTS AND REALITY because they don't serve your views regarding the true state of racism in this country. As I've said before, I detest Rush Limbaugh and always have, but the difference between you and I is that I am intellectually honest and willing to match facts with facts, whereas you've steadfastly ignored every valid point (and at the risk of sounding immodestly I'd say there have been a lot of them) I've made and have tried to paint an inaccurate picture of my thoughts. Why don't you tell everyone why you REFUSE to do some quick and simple research on scores of innocent whites being physically attacked and victimized that I long ago pointed out to you, yet you have immediately put a hoodie picture up? And, don't dare try to get it twisted and turn me into a zimmerman supporter or callous to what happened to this boy - but while I can and do empathize with every and any victim of racist violence, you won't bother to even acknowledge disturbing facts about white victims of of racist atrocities because they apparently don't reach your sympathy meter. No it seems you have a team, a side, and a race to fight for rather than the human race. Unlike you, I care about ALL people, and call a wrong a wrong and search for ALL wrongs, and think the fact that the mainstream media and closed-minded libs like you refuse to just shows how intellectually dishonest, bigoted, self-serving, and divisive you truly are. Funny thing is this is all while your type pretend to be such peaceful and honest souls caring for the good of all.

One of two things has to be true - you were either too lazy and indifferent about white victims of racial attacks to take 5 mins to do the searches on the various anti-white racial attacks at several state fares, or you are intellectually dishonest and petty to admit that what the mainstream media continues to ignore and forces me to find on my own actually occurred, is beyond disturbing, and means that your views of race in this country are WAAAY OFF and that I was correct in many earlier statements to you I made in private.

Well since YOU won't do it, I'll challenge you here to a point by point debate on the matter (which I again tried to conduct in private but from which you ran). So PLEASE post your hoodie (although I think everyone has a right to a fair trial and to be proven guilty) I'm right there with you, but the difference is my outrage doesn't have a team or a color. So go ahead and spend 5 minutes looking for the hurried info on the fairs and the denver 30, which are only the tip of the iceberg and we'll start from there!

[Snagg]

As of today, NINETY-EIGHT major corporations have pulled their ads from ANYTHING that Mr. Sunshine's "Premier Networks" touches, not just his show itself. Ford, GM, Toyota, McDonald's, Subway, Geico, State Farm, AllState...It's a long list.

The fun part will be watching Free Market acolytes try to spin the Free Markets' foot in Limbaugh's ass into some sort of conspiracy of socialist censorship engineered by the gays, the environmentalists, the uppity wimmen and a deep-cover sleeper plot put in place by Saul Alinsky before he died, forty years ago, while Rushie was still playing pop music on Top 40 radio.

[Sofia Chesterfield]

I believe that the real problem is not that some people are not denouncing RL, but instead that anyone feels the need to denounce him at all.  He speaks with no moral authority, nor are his opinions well-considered or well-informed, and yet millions of people listen to him and base their own viewpoints on his.  This is a symptom of a terrible problem in our society -- that anyone pays any attention to him at all.

[Vernon Windsor]

The implication that Limbaugh's hateful rhetoric is found equally on the left as on the right is ridiculous. It's like saying that the filibuster is used equally by the Republicans and the Democrats. Again, ridiculous...and easily researched. The fact that Rush's shameful attack on a young woman, who was doing nothing more than honestly engaging in the political process (which I thought we wanted in this country), has nothing to do with Sarah Palin, Reverend Wright, Maxine Waters, or Henry Louis Gates. The fact that Jayson (and others) would try to divert attention from the incident by whining that "they do it too, mom," only illustrates the lengths some (like Mitt Romney, Rick Santorum, Eric Cantor, and others) will go to support Rush's words and deeds. President Obama's election and presidency has served to excise people's true feelings like sweat in a sauna. The crap just comes out of their pores. They can't help it. The latest fear and loathing project from the right is the re-invention of Derek Bell (who, conveniently for the right, died recently and so is not here to defend himself) as a "radical" when nothing was further from the truth.

Again, props to the president for supporting Fluke. Anyone with daughters (or even a mother or sister) should have the urge to do the same.

[CWO3ROBBIE]

Pro Flowers dropped him. And I hear that at least 40 others have.

[funesthememorious]

Conservatives are more likely to see things as a zero sum game ( trying to win it completely by controlling and rigging it further for their side ) while liberals support a more cooperative paradigm ( trying to make the game more fair for everyone ). The right sees things in terms of dominance, submission and humiliation...so trash talk is important to them. Yet they are so ridiculously whiny when criticized. Rush Limbaugh, Beck, Palin, or any of the right have that annoying mix of asserted moral superiority alongside some supposed deep victimization angst.

Granted there are foul-mouthed liberals that insult the right. However almost always they do not engage in the eliminationist rhetoric common on the right. At least liberals want their opponents to have health care so they and their children, friends and family don't die unnecessarily.

[Scott Free]

Of course, Limbaugh, who has been married 4 times and espouses the virtues of Viagra is in a poor position to tell anyone what they can and can't do regarding their sex lives. I guess for Limbaugh, it's "No Egg Left Behind" meaning that for him I suppose, menstruation is a form of contraception as well.

[jayson]

Sorry all the typos but doing this on an iPad is difficult. And by the way, the foul- mouthed hater that gave the president's PAC a million dollars is bill mahr - who called sear palin ( a woman I think is the most UNQUALIFIED candidate for high office I've seen) the C word - and there u have it, mr. Obama's sensitivity stops there I guess. I guess it's ok to call her a C RIGHT PRES? Ridiculous!