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Comment by brujo on April 25, 2012 at 3:37pm

Jesus you're such a troll.  I wish I had two of you.  I'd beat one to death with the other.


Comment by brujo on April 25, 2012 at 10:37am

I'm doing well Lawrence.  I know it's wrong, but I stop by occasionally to tease Pac-Man.   I'm still laughing over his claim he posts things that are interesting.  How've you been?


Comment by Lawrence Bates on April 24, 2012 at 10:17pm

Hi, Bruj, How you keeping?  Haven't seen you in a while.  Just stopped to greet you, don't have time to post anything.

Comment by brujo on April 24, 2012 at 5:38pm

The main entertainment?  Wow.  I didn't think I showed up enough to be the main entertainment, so thanks.  But the only the reason I comment on your posts, is you're the only one making them anymore.  You have succeeded in chasing everyone one out.  Hopefully you're not like this in real life.  That would be a very lonely existence.  I know, here's where you tell me how well adjusted you are.


Comment by brujo on April 24, 2012 at 2:40pm

Just because I called you a No Life MF? I still think that's true because  you do seem to be on here a lot....laying in wait, like the troll in the  billy goats gruff, playing more liberal than thou.  But truthfully, Larry just winds you up like a toy with a broken spring.  I do try to check in here a couple of times a week for the laugh.


Comment by brujo on April 23, 2012 at 7:55pm

I think Pacis was verbally abused as a child.  He's awful quick to name call. 

Comment by Lawrence Bates on April 23, 2012 at 10:33am

Just as I expected from you, pac, You fail to answer a single challenge I've made, and try to cover that up with the sheer volume of your insults.  You fail to offer a single bit of documentation, even opinionised documentation that you believe is fact because you read it.

When I come back, I'll address Snagg I guess, he's cruder than you, but not as boring.

Comment by Lawrence Bates on April 22, 2012 at 3:31pm

Next you present as fact that Mr. Zimmerman  “interrogated”  M. Martin.   Once more I challenge you to show documentation for this “fact” of yours.    Water boarding perhaps? Jumper cables?  A simple pistol whipping? Even asking him a question?  You will just talk louder and ignore this of course.

Now lets go back to what you refer to as my “drop in” about Andrew Breitbart.    What I was referring to was the fact that Andrew spent so much of his time and energy in his efforts to shed the light of day on various progressive boondoggles, even though he knew his health required him to slow the pace, and that in the end it worked out badly for him.    I certainly wasn’t expecting the  vehement post mortem charges of drug and alcohol abuse and debauchery against Breitbart.  I’m not aware that he was any of that.  You have documentation that isn’t just opinion of course?   

The reason I insert this here, rather than after we have exhausted the subject at hand, is that I am beginning to realize that you can and will talk longer than me about any subject whatever and I do think that your Alinsky taught tactic of misdirection when you can’t argue from a basis of fact should be answered.

Be back when I can, to continue this.

Comment by Lawrence Bates on April 22, 2012 at 3:29pm


Sorry I didn’t get back sooner, it’s been a busy time for me.  I’ll continue to answer your posts and charges in the order you posted them, but don’t be surprised if I’m never able to catch up, due to the sheer volume of your confusion.

you say: "The fourth one is where you tell me that I’m going to claim that Trayvon pursued Zimmerman."

The quote in question, by Pac:    "Based on this encyclopedic response of yours, I can see how your kind is going to spin it: Travyon pursued Zimmerman, and Zimmerman fired in self-defense. "

You did post that, on April 16, no?

In fact, (and it is a fact, not just one of your opinions), I have never made a claim that either man was involved in any kind of “pursuit”.   The pursuit thing is just stuck in your head from those who you allow to form your opinions for you.  I challenge you to show otherwise, but you will change the subject of course, and pontificate about everything but.

Then you add a quote from me: "There is ample evidence that Mr. Zimmerman broke off from keeping Mr. Martin in sight, when the dispatcher told him that he needn't to do so any longer, and that, in fact, Mr. Zimmerman was back at his own vehicle, having returned on foot after that judgment call by the dispatcher, at which point he was assaulted."

Quite simply, there is ample evidence for this possibility.    I know you have seen information on it, do I need to post it here?  I will if you want.

That being the case, why do you insist that the scenario in which Mr.  Z. chases down  pursues Treyvon and shoots him is factual?  Dare I suggest that it’s because you have a narrative derived from your liberal leaders that fits their/your agenda?

Then you have the chutzpa to say, “I repeat facts for you, because you don't seem to be capable of processing simple stuff.

You don’t seem capable of understanding the concept, that the simple fact of your either saying or repeating something does not make it a fact.   This is a logical shortcoming that I find in most progressives.

You then say:   “As to your claim that the killer pursued Mr. Smith not knowing what his race is, have I ever given you the impression that I would buy oceanfront property in Arizona? Suspicious behavior? What was suspicious about him, other than being black?

First, I don’t know any Mr. Smith connected to the Martin/ Zimmerman case, second I have never claimed that the killer “pursued” anyone, not even Mr. Martin, (possibly bumping your head against the wall a few times would help dislodge that persistent  bit of opinion masquerading as fact) and finally, you castigate me for not stating as fact like you do, that Mr. Zimmerman knew Mr. Martin’s ethnicity the moment he first noticed him,  when there is no evidence, either that he did or that it had any bearing on events that day.

  You also seem to believe that the reasons given to the dispatcher by Mr. Zimmerman, concerning suspicious behavior, don’t even exist, though they are plain as day on the 911 tapes.   Of course that doesn’t fit the narrative that you’ve sold yourself to, either, does it?   Then you tell me to use my brain………  Heh, heh, good one.


Comment by Lawrence Bates on April 16, 2012 at 9:39pm

Pac, how can you make so many bone headed assumptions one right after another?  You would stand a much better chance of convincing me of your argument, if you slow down enough to think your opinions through.  I count at least four unsupported assumptions in your second paragraph.

First, you assume that simply repeating what you said before proves what you said before.  Not true.

Second you assume that the fact that Mr. Zimmerman’s answer to the dispatcher’s query about what race the subject was, (“ He looks black”), somehow magically proves your contention that he was keeping the young man in sight (pursuing, to you)simply because he was black.   There is no basis for such an unsupported assumption.   You have no evidence that Mr. Zimmerman was even aware of the young man’s race, before the dispatcher asked and what’s more, even if he was, so what?  You’d charge Mr. Zimmerman with some crime for realizing that a person is black?   Neither knowing that the young man was black when he first noticed his suspicious behavior or realizing it at the point of the dispatcher’s question proves your assertion that if the kid was white it would never have happened.   That is a completely unsupported opinion on your part.   You do realize that don’t you?

Third,  you gleefully assert that I didn’t know that the tech who altered the 911 tapes for NBC, had been thrown under the bus.   What could you possibly have based this assumption on?  Never mind, you can repeat it in your next post and that will prove it.

The fourth one is where you tell me that I’m going to claim that Trayvon pursued Zimmerman.  I know a lady that blows way too much money on the Psychic Friends network.  Could I just give her your contact info?

I’ll be back as soon as I can to answer the rest of your post, pac, I have to ride over early to your State in the AM, to get some new tires on my murdercycle.


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