Intrepid Minds Discussions - TBD2024-03-28T13:41:34Zhttp://teebeedee.ning.com/group/intrepidminds/forum?feed=yes&xn_auth=noThe speed of lighttag:teebeedee.ning.com,2013-10-20:1991841:Topic:16198712013-10-20T19:03:29.846ZLoveLife&Laughterhttp://teebeedee.ning.com/profile/FredStieg
<p>Einstein's theory suggests nothing is faster.</p>
<p>But some cosmologists suggest the Universe expanded faster then the speed of light.</p>
<p>Black holes however, and super massive black holes, suggest to me that terminal velocity is finite.</p>
<p>And how about the in-progress virtual (radio) high resolution telescope being build to observe the Milky Way's SMBH determining that some parts of (old) distant light is polarized like the plane of an atom or galaxy orbit...conventional physics?…</p>
<p>Einstein's theory suggests nothing is faster.</p>
<p>But some cosmologists suggest the Universe expanded faster then the speed of light.</p>
<p>Black holes however, and super massive black holes, suggest to me that terminal velocity is finite.</p>
<p>And how about the in-progress virtual (radio) high resolution telescope being build to observe the Milky Way's SMBH determining that some parts of (old) distant light is polarized like the plane of an atom or galaxy orbit...conventional physics? </p>
<p>There goes the wormhole :0(</p> Picture a Wordtag:teebeedee.ning.com,2013-09-08:1991841:Topic:16031892013-09-08T03:09:11.002ZLoveLife&Laughterhttp://teebeedee.ning.com/profile/FredStieg
<p> Describe yourself in one word or picture.</p>
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<p></p> Aren't They Supposed to Heal the Sick?tag:teebeedee.ning.com,2011-09-16:1991841:Topic:12959592011-09-16T02:04:09.808ZWesterly_2http://teebeedee.ning.com/profile/Westerly_2
<p>Here’s the situation: you have a friend who has been told by a visiting nurse that there “may be evidence” of head lice, but she wasn’t sure, so your friend should consult her PC to be sure. Your friend calls and makes an appointment; this PC is tracking the progress of her shingles anyway, and she mentions the possibility of the lice as well. They make a quick appointment to squeeze her in. On the morning of the appointment, the lady is literally being helped into her wheelchair by the van…</p>
<p>Here’s the situation: you have a friend who has been told by a visiting nurse that there “may be evidence” of head lice, but she wasn’t sure, so your friend should consult her PC to be sure. Your friend calls and makes an appointment; this PC is tracking the progress of her shingles anyway, and she mentions the possibility of the lice as well. They make a quick appointment to squeeze her in. On the morning of the appointment, the lady is literally being helped into her wheelchair by the van staff she had to request ahead of time, when the PC’s office calls and says they have changed their minds about seeing her, since, if she does have lice, she “shouldn’t be coming to the office.” Instead, they tell her about a special shampoo she may not even need, and advise her not to come back to the office until she is cured.</p>
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<p>I was pretty stunned at this treatment by health care professionals. The lady uses her own chair, and not the public furniture, and any doctor’s office will have boxes of those latex gloves on hand. What the hell?</p> Can concepts (God) inhibit relating to reality?tag:teebeedee.ning.com,2011-07-16:1991841:Topic:12342572011-07-16T00:37:19.091ZMaricel Evascohttp://teebeedee.ning.com/profile/MaricelEvasco
<p><font face="Comic Sans MS"><b><font color="#CC33CC"><font size="+1">BeiYin:</font></font></b> <font color="#000099">There is obviously a discrepancy between concepts and reality. This causes disappointment, frustration and a lot of stress in most humans. The high number of diseases, suicides and depressions are the result. Spiritual concepts about Love, harmony and Oneness and religious belief systems providing images about God and how to live to go to heaven, for sure give a certain frame…</font></font></p>
<p><font face="Comic Sans MS"><b><font color="#CC33CC"><font size="+1">BeiYin:</font></font></b> <font color="#000099">There is obviously a discrepancy between concepts and reality. This causes disappointment, frustration and a lot of stress in most humans. The high number of diseases, suicides and depressions are the result. Spiritual concepts about Love, harmony and Oneness and religious belief systems providing images about God and how to live to go to heaven, for sure give a certain frame in which people can live, but their own reality is different and giving effort in trying to live adapted concepts doesn't really work to make people fulfilled and happy. What's going wrong? Is it that humans need to wake up and realize that they are caught in a game with themselves?</font></font> <br/><font face="Comic Sans MS"><font color="#3333FF"><b><font size="+1">Comment:</font></b> I don't understand your point here, do you mean that religion conflicts with how people live their life? That their religion does not fully benefit their life by giving them a belief from that they can gain a more positive attitude and world view?</font></font> <br/><font face="Comic Sans MS"><b><font color="#CC33CC"><font size="+1">BeiYin:</font></font></b> <font color="#000099">No, that's not exactly what I mean. I said that there is a discrepancy between concepts and reality. A religion is a concept or you might call it a dogma, right? So this dogma includes rules and advises how one should behave and live. It gives a picture of reality and people make it as part of their self-image. Right? So far so good, now people know what to do and they feel some how good. They have a frame in that they can move and it gives them a certain security. But then there is the daily reality and then there are appearing conflicts because it doesn't fit to ones concepts and so the result is disappointment.</font></font> <br/><font face="Comic Sans MS"><font color="#3333FF"><b><font size="+1">Comment:</font></b> If that's your point, I totally disagree. Indeed there are religious demands, but most followers will take it as part of their commitment that they can never meet up to the standards of their religious rules. Religion is part of their life and gives them security and a background so that they can deal with reality.</font></font> <br/><font face="Comic Sans MS"><b><font color="#CC33CC"><font size="+1">BeiYin:</font></font></b> <font color="#000099">It is not about standards. It is about the fact that established concepts inhibit to relate directly to reality. There is always the filter from the concepts how things should be and then the person is reacting and accepting or rejecting what shows up, but not being aware of it, only finding always a good reason for ones reactions, mostly giving the fault to the outside conditions or the behavior and action of people.</font></font> <br/><font face="Comic Sans MS"><font color="#3333FF"><b><font size="+1">Comment:</font></b> For example: A person feels totally lost and doesn't find sense in ones life. When this person finds sense in a religion, then this gives them peace and so this person can be happy. Christianity teaches self acceptance, love and hope. Becoming familiar with their belief people can then accept and follow the religious rules, for example giving up sins and growing stronger in their faith. They might also give up self-destructive habits and chose new ones.</font></font> <br/><font face="Comic Sans MS"><b><font color="#CC33CC"><font size="+1">BeiYin:</font></font></b> <font color="#000099">Sounds good as a concept, but what about reality? Has there changed anything in tow thousand years? Is there more peace than before? No, there isn't. Are people more happy? For sure not. Look at the high number of diseases, the rising number of suicides, the extreme amount of divorces, abuse and crimes... "Becoming familiar with their belief people can then accept and follow the religious rules" Really you believe in this? Then look around. "Giving up sins?" How can people give up sins by following a 'religious demand'? Just go around the corner and observe what is happening... Self-destruction where ever you look: In life style, consumer habits, entertainment, relation ships and most of what people do.</font></font> <br/><font face="Comic Sans MS"><font color="#3333FF"><b><font size="+1">Comment:</font></b> Yes, many might not be aware of their self-destructive life style when in their present body - but, they can still gain a kind of fulfillment because they were doing their best in following the rules of their religious concept.</font></font> <br/><font face="Comic Sans MS"><b><font color="#CC33CC"><font size="+1">BeiYin:</font></font></b> <font color="#000099">Yes, people might gain a sense of fulfillment when they join a belief system and doing some effort to suppress needs that are showing up and that are not allowed by the rules of their dogma, but what is it they really have gained? Have they fulfilled their longing? Have they grown? Are they content and happy with their life? Do they relate to reality, feeling responsible to what happens and respond out of their best capability?</font></font> <br/><font face="Comic Sans MS"><font color="#3333FF"><b><font size="+1">Comment:</font></b> Are concepts and reality two different things? How can you prove reality to a person? Reality are concepts of our collective mind. What people perceive depends on their personal background and will not be exactly the same than how another perceives something.</font></font> <br/><font face="Comic Sans MS"><b><font color="#CC33CC"><font size="+1">BeiYin:</font></font></b> <font color="#000099">I don't say that concepts and reality are two different things. I say that having concepts doesn't allow to relate to reality in an objective way because one receives and is interpreting every thing through ones established concepts that are working in ones unconscious background. Didn't Jesus say: "Become like children to gain the kingdom of heaven?" That is because children don't have yet concepts, they live more in the presence and relate in a more direct way. What would Jesus have said to your comments here? Maybe: "Oh you clever brave women, you are so good in your belief and what you have learned how to be a good christian, but forget about all this and become like a child or even better like a new born child and then breath the air and live without any contamination of sophisticated thoughts and dogmas..."</font></font> <br/><font face="Comic Sans MS"><font color="#3333FF"><b><font size="+1">Comment:</font></b> You seem to believe that religions are an obstacle to gain happiness, that's simply not true. People will always be in a game within themselves and they don't have an inbuilt reset button.</font></font> <br/><font face="Comic Sans MS"><b><font color="#CC33CC"><font size="+1">BeiYin:</font></font></b> <font color="#000099">I don't see it like this, I observe it every day all around. People were trying to live their concepts for a long time and they were fighting and struggling, getting more and more frustrated and disappointed. Life becomes very stressful. Why? Because they are fighting against 'wings of windmills', as Cervantes in 'Don Quixote' has described it... Even having beautiful concepts, being disappointed enough, then life doesn't make sense any more. People can't find satisfaction and happiness. The discrepancy between the concepts of the collective mind that are supposed to give value to life and the reality of daily conditions and happenings are too obvious. Desperation is taking over. When you say that there will be always an ongoing game within ourselves then this is the most negative and destructive statement that is possible. Indeed there exist a 'reset button' and that is to free oneself from games, getting out of concepts and belief systems. Taking self responsibility and relating and responding out of ones own awareness. Going into a growing and healing process. That is the 'reset button'. Of course this is not done instantly by pushing a button. This is hard work, not because of the resistance and difficulties from the outside, but because of ones own established structure and the old way to hold on it, not wanting to let go what at least gave a kind of sense. No, one need to let go of worn out ways of thinking, even with the danger to fall into a void, where nothing gives sense... Then one might find something new. Something that doesn't need to be put into words to become a new concept. It will be a state of 'being' in which one will be able to appreciate the simple fact to be alive and this does not depend on conditions or any belief... Live your existence right here and now! Then you will be able to enjoy it and out of this will grow real happiness! Without any conditions! - - -</font></font></p>
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<a href="http://askbeiyin.falconblanco.com/#spiirituality">http://askbeiyin.falconblanco.com/#spiirituality</a> Anyone watch Michael Moore's doc- SICKO?tag:teebeedee.ning.com,2011-06-13:1991841:Topic:12112482011-06-13T09:31:07.287ZMaricel Evascohttp://teebeedee.ning.com/profile/MaricelEvasco
<p>I watched SICKO with my (Med Ethics) class last week and was highly disturbed by the testimonies. One has to be really careful what one puts in health history. If you haven't already watched it, try to do so. It is riveting.</p>
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<p><em>America's most incendiary filmmaker, Michael Moore, returned in 2007 with this health-care-industry exposé. SICKO tackles…</em></p>
<p>I watched SICKO with my (Med Ethics) class last week and was highly disturbed by the testimonies. One has to be really careful what one puts in health history. If you haven't already watched it, try to do so. It is riveting.</p>
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<p><em>America's most incendiary filmmaker, Michael Moore, returned in 2007 with this health-care-industry exposé. SICKO tackles material as controversial as the topics explored in Moore's other films, yet does so in a way that places the focus on ordinary Americans affected by the nation's health-care crisis. After providing some historical background on how our nation's medical care system became so ravaged and unfair, Moore interviews a series of individuals and families who have had their lives all but destroyed by the denial of care in the service of profit. While there are two sides to the gun-control debate and even a legitimate discourse for how to best wage the war on terror, it's simply impossible to justify how a baby girl can wind up dead because her mother's health insurance wasn't accepted at a nearby hospital. Moore smartly allows this and other stories to be told with little or no interference, conjuring strong feelings of empathy, rage, and deep sadness. Of course, SICKO isn't a Public Broadcasting System documentary, it's a Michael Moore movie, and his fingerprints are all over it. Moore visits countries that have universal health care--spectacularly so when he takes several World Trade Center workers to Guantanamo Bay (and then to Cuba) to receive health care that they were denied in the United States--and presents a compelling argument for adopting a similar system in the States. Moore's ultimate purpose here is to compel Americans to care for one another, and it's a simple request that shockingly must be made via a major motion picture, making SICKO essential viewing.</em></p>
<p><a href="http://avaxhome.ws/video/Format/documentary/_sicko_.html">http://avaxhome.ws/video/Format/documentary/_sicko_.html</a></p> Earth wobble & tilt = climate changes?tag:teebeedee.ning.com,2011-06-04:1991841:Topic:12029522011-06-04T11:19:50.035ZMaricel Evascohttp://teebeedee.ning.com/profile/MaricelEvasco
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<tr><td>The tilt of the earth relative to its plane of travel about the sun is what causes seasons. The hemisphere "pointing toward" the sun is in summer, while the opposite hemisphere is in winter. The earth makes one full orbit around the sun each year. The…</td>
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<tr><td>The tilt of the earth relative to its plane of travel about the sun is what causes seasons. The hemisphere "pointing toward" the sun is in summer, while the opposite hemisphere is in winter. The earth makes one full orbit around the sun each year. The northern hemisphere is in summer in the left image, while 6 months later, the southern hemisphere has summer, as in the center image. If the earth's axis were "straight up and down" relative to the orbital plane, as in the right-hand image, there would be no seasons, since any given point at the top of the atmosphere would receive the same amount of sun each day of the year.<p>Changes in the "tilt" of the earth can change the severity of the seasons - more "tilt" means more severe seasons - warmer summers and colder winters; less "tilt" means less severe seasons - cooler summers and milder winters. The earth wobbles in space so that its tilt changes between about 22 and 25 degrees on a cycle of about 41,000 years. It is the cool summers which are thought to allow snow and ice to last from year to year in high latitudes, eventually building up into massive ice sheets. There are positive feedbacks in the climate system as well, because an earth covered with more snow reflects more of the sun's energy into space, causing additional cooling. In addition, it appears that the amount of Carbon Dioxide in the atmosphere falls as ice sheets grow, also adding to the cooling of the climate.</p>
<p>The earth's orbit around the sun is not quite circular, which means that the earth is slightly closer to the sun at some times of the year than others. The closest approach of the earth to the sun is called perihelion, and it now occurs in January, making northern hemisphere winters slightly milder. This change in timing of perihelion is known as the precession of the equinoxes, and occurs on a period of 22,000 years. 11,000 years ago, perihelion occurred in July, making the seasons more severe than today. The "roundness", or eccentricity, of the earth's orbit varies on cycles of 100,000 and 400,000 years, and this affects how important the timing of perihelion is to the strength of the seasons. The combination of the 41,000 year tilt cycle and the 22,000 year precession cycles, plus the smaller eccentricity signal, affect the relative severity of summer and winter, and are thought to control the growth and retreat of ice sheets. Cool summers in the northern hemisphere, where most of the earth's land mass is located, appear to allow snow and ice to persist to the next winter, allowing the development of large ice sheets over hundreds to thousands of years. Conversely, warmer summers shrink ice sheets by melting more ice than the amount accumulating during the winter.</p>
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<tr><td><p><strong>What is The Milankovitch Theory?</strong> The Milankovitch or astronomical theory of climate change is an explanation for changes in the seasons which result from changes in the earth's orbit around the sun. The theory is named for Serbian astronomer Milutin Milankovitch, who calculated the slow changes in the earth's orbit by careful measurements of the position of the stars, and through equations using the gravitational pull of other planets and stars. He determined that the earth "wobbles" in its orbit. The earth's "tilt" is what causes seasons, and changes in the tilt of the earth change the strength of the seasons. The seasons can also be accentuated or modified by the eccentricity (degree of roundness) of the orbital path around the sun, and the precession effect, the position of the solstices in the annual orbit.</p>
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<p><strong>I'm wondering if the recent earthquakes in Japan and other countries will inadvertently cause more climate change. The weather has been bipolar in NY as of late.</strong></p>
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<p>A very interesting explanation for global warming: <a href="http://www.aip.org/history/climate/cycles.htm">http://www.aip.org/history/climate/cycles.htm</a></p>
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<p>Who are society's scapegoats?</p>
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<p>Who are society's scapegoats?</p>
<p>(photos and/or text responses welcome)</p>
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<p><strong>Physics : A Quantum universe?</strong><br></br>We look at the objects and materials of the world as bounded and solid. The calls for change in the area of physics are perhaps the most radical of all the movements in the scientific disciplines, questioning the nature of scientific enquiry and indicating that it is time to ‘re-seed’ our concepts of self and others, and incorporate the implications of quantum physics into our notions of the physical world. <strong>Modern developments in…</strong></p>
<p><strong>Physics : A Quantum universe?</strong><br/>We look at the objects and materials of the world as bounded and solid. The calls for change in the area of physics are perhaps the most radical of all the movements in the scientific disciplines, questioning the nature of scientific enquiry and indicating that it is time to ‘re-seed’ our concepts of self and others, and incorporate the implications of quantum physics into our notions of the physical world. <strong>Modern developments in Physics are questioning our present ways of interpreting the world, and the things around us, <em>suggesting that they are incorrect.</em></strong><br/><br/>Albert Einstein observed :<br/><em>A human being is part of the whole, called by us, universe ... We experience ourselves, our thoughts and feelings as something separate from the rest. A kind of optical delusion of consciousness. This delusion is a kind of prison for us, restricting us to our personal desires and to affection for a few persons nearest to us. Our task must be to free ourselves from the prison by widening our circle of compassion to embrace all living creatures and the whole of nature in its beauty. The true value of a human being is determined by the measure and the sense in which they have obtained liberation from the self. We shall require a substantially new manner of thinking if humanity is to survive.</em><br/><br/>Developments in physics suggest that our delusions and fantasies are not restricted to values. Our perceptions of the external world are distorted. Whilst recognizing the dramatic achievements of science, particularly the remarkable levels of accuracy of physical theories, Penrose (1989) has raised questions about the basic assumptions underlying the Classical approaches to Science. He argues that just as many aspects of our physical reality require the theories of quantum physics to explain them, this may apply also to our understanding of the social world. "Perhaps our minds are qualities rooted in some strange and wonderful feature of those physical laws which actually govern the world we inhabit…We must indeed come to terms with Quantum theory — that most exact and mysterious of physical theories — if we are to delve deeply into some major questions of philosophy…how does our world behave, and what constitutes the ‘minds’ that are indeed ‘us'? Yet some day science may give us a more profound understanding of Nature than quantum theory can provide. It is my personal view that even quantum theory is a stop- gap, inadequate in certain essentials for providing a complete picture of the world in which we actually live." (Penrose,<br/>R.(1989)p.291)<br/><br/>The work of Richard Feynmann (1985) winner of the Nobel Prize and a central figure in the changes within Physics, links Physics with Psychology and Philosophy, denying the existence of a reality ‘out there’ or indeed a static/measurable universe anywhere and considers what Physics and Mathematics can tell us about the nature of the mind and consciousness. He explains that the essence of Quantum Mechanics involves going against our common sense. The questions raised by quantum physics touch on the very deepest issues of philosophy. The phenomenon of consciousness needs alternatives to classical approaches. <strong>It seems that the things that we see and feel and manipulate as solid objects may be particles and/or waves, and can only be explained, measured, and predicted in terms of particles of energy, atoms. The notions of a solid, static world, out there, is an illusion: an illusion that is upheld by our perceptions of</strong><br/><strong>solidity.</strong><br/><br/>The inheritors of the quest for understanding the nature of the Universe have to come to terms with the limitations of order and predictability at the heart of quantum physics which leads to questioning all notions of solid reality, since atoms can appear as particles or waves simultaneously; as particles of energy. <strong>At one point atoms were thought to be indivisible. But research over the last 30 years has shown that atoms comprise protons,neutrons, electrons; which in turn are made up of quarks. The very latest research is indicating that quarks are divisible! Hadrons</strong>. These particles come together to create matter and anti-matter, positive/negative. If matter collides with antimatter there is a big bang. It is argued that our universe came into being following a 'Big Bang', 15 billion years ago. After which the universe, space,and time began; matter super heated,expanded, and then cooled to form galaxies, stars, earth, life-forms. It is thought that there has not been another 'big-bang', because there is an excess of matter in the universe. Therefore, this universe is assymetrical, lopsided; with more matter than antimatter. Of course, we could ask where is the antimatter ?</p>
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<p>Galaxies,stars,planets,organisms are made from matter, particles. Human organisms are collections of particles of energy derivedfrom a universe of particles generated by a collision of matter and anti-matter.[Wikipedia. org.} These theories are making it possible to think that the separation into ‘me and we’, ‘thou/I’; ‘self and others’ is mistaken. Individual humans should be viewed as particles and waves, as part of a continuum in which ‘the one’ is an aspect of ‘the many’. What we see as objects and organisms are specific concentrations of particles and waves amidst a universe of particles and waves. <strong>The ‘Quantum message’ is that there is no ‘out there’ and ‘in here’, only states of particles and waves. This message indicates that any notion of the independent self, and the solid, independent object of our experiences, is an illusion. We are temporary concentrations of particles.</strong></p>
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<a href="http://www.kelvynrichards.com/">http://www.kelvynrichards.com/</a> We're still here, but I think there is a little something coming our way...tag:teebeedee.ning.com,2011-05-22:1991841:Topic:11882692011-05-22T00:02:29.237ZMaricel Evascohttp://teebeedee.ning.com/profile/MaricelEvasco
<h2 class="title">Republicans Vote To Repeal Obama-Backed Bill That Would Destroy Asteroid Headed For Earth.......</h2>
<p><a href="http://www.theonion.com/articles/republicans-vote-to-repeal-obamabacked-bill-that-w,19025/">http://www.theonion.com/articles/republicans-vote-to-repeal-obamabacked-bill-that-w,19025/</a></p>
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<p>Any thoughts about this?</p>
<h2 class="title">Republicans Vote To Repeal Obama-Backed Bill That Would Destroy Asteroid Headed For Earth.......</h2>
<p><a href="http://www.theonion.com/articles/republicans-vote-to-repeal-obamabacked-bill-that-w,19025/">http://www.theonion.com/articles/republicans-vote-to-repeal-obamabacked-bill-that-w,19025/</a></p>
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<p>Any thoughts about this?</p> Who should help the poor? Churches or Government?tag:teebeedee.ning.com,2011-05-19:1991841:Topic:11847072011-05-19T03:16:25.720ZCWO3ROBBIEhttp://teebeedee.ning.com/profile/CWO3ROBBIE
<p>I have noticed that during the past decade there seems to be a move by the religious community to discredit Government help for the poor.</p>
<p>During the Bush Administration there was a "Faith Based Initiative" where Bush tried very hard to get the government to provide funds to the churches to help the poor. That program didn't seem to work too well and has seemingly been discontinued.</p>
<p>Lately, I hear my religious friends and clergy harping about how inefficient the government is…</p>
<p>I have noticed that during the past decade there seems to be a move by the religious community to discredit Government help for the poor.</p>
<p>During the Bush Administration there was a "Faith Based Initiative" where Bush tried very hard to get the government to provide funds to the churches to help the poor. That program didn't seem to work too well and has seemingly been discontinued.</p>
<p>Lately, I hear my religious friends and clergy harping about how inefficient the government is and how much money they waste.</p>
<p>This caused me to wonder if there weren't some built in reasons that Churches would like to see more poor people.</p>
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