WTH is wrong with these guys?

[Merry]

And I said what the hell but I was truly thinking the other one!!!!!!!http://t.now.msn.com/rolling-stone-dzhokhar-tsarnaev-cover-criticized

[frenchy]

thats so true merry .. and some of us are actually lookin at the moon .. or its rainin .. or too cloudy .. or maybe even an eclipse .. but you're right .. it so much better when we can say how we feel without bein judged .. i can see why some might think it was disrespectful to put him on the cover .. he is after all a terrorist and we should never lose sight of that fact .. but on the other hand information is power .. and to shine some light on it helps .. i mean even a blind squirrel can find a nut once in a while but do we really wanna be blind squirrels ?? so both sides have a point .. and deserve to be heard .. 

[crestofwaves]

Information IS power.  Thomas Jefferson said make sure people are EDUCATED and more likely than not, they will make the correct choices ( just about finished with his biography).  When people come in and start calling people names because their thoughts are different, it shuts down conversation and impedes education.

This group is AWESOME!!!!!!!!! because we don't do that. I LOVE this group.

[frenchy]

yeah i think thats the best way too cresty .. stick to the facts and keep the name callin outta it .. that just makes it worse .. let them argue with the facts .. not the person who presented them . cause when you start callin names the conversation just goes straight into the gutter .. and for those that like to be in the mud and the ditch fine .. but don't drag me in there too .. 

[ProblemAgain]

one of the troubles that our generation seems to have is that since the advent of cinema and video and all the other eyecandy, we seem to be distracted from what people are under that shiny and well-groomed exterior. it has been said that a statesman like hubert humphrey would not be able to be elected at all anymore because he was short and round and didn't look like a primetime leading man or a candidate for hero of the week. that leaves us with the smooth ones. and we need to be able to sift people, both personally and professionally for who they really are under that nice or not nice exterior. someone mentioned ted bundy...great example..cleancut collegiate young man that would gladden a mommy's heart to see with her daughter....so how do we see thru all that and get past the illusions?

[crestofwaves]

Funny because I was just proven illogical or stupid, or whatever.  I said if someone looked scruffy, I probably would not get on the elevator with that person, but if someone looked more polished, I would have no problem.

Well, there is a story about a serial killer just found who may have been emulating another rapist murderer. They showed the original rapist murderer and guess what?  He looked like the black neurosurgeon the Tea party likes now.

So, I am not getting on the elevator with any other living human being that I don't know.

 

I think we well never get past the illusions, and I don't think it has much to do with outside influences.  We are all just human, flawed, anxious, quirky, etc.  The world does not have to be fair and wonderful for it to continue. It's the friction that forces people to ACT. 

And unfortunately, world peace and the end to illness would result in such an overpopulation that we'd be killing each other off anyway.  I'm a downer, I know, but I have a good attitude about it.  I really think most people just power through all the bull shit no matter how much there is and who is throwing it.  If people can move on from the loss of a child  (I use this because I can't think of anything worse), people can do anything.

[ProblemAgain]

you aren't illogical at all....we sift what people appear to be compared to what we have experienced before. that's why some people like ted bundy go for long periods of time without being caught. they don't look like a serial rapist/murderer....same as bernie madoff didn't LOOK like the guy robbing you blind....the guys on wall street don't LOOK like the guy robbing the 7/11 at gunpoint....so they get away with millions instead of 70 bucks...it's a conundrum......

[crestofwaves]

Oh, to me, Bernie looked EXACTLY like the guy who would rob people blind and use them in the most greedy way possible.  I profiled him.

[ProblemAgain]

it's cause he was short right? oh oh you're in trouble now! did i mention i was only 3'6"......i feel emotionally violated and require immense compensation to make myself whole again....or is that hole? i think someone mentioned i was a hole....

[Merry]

There, I've always said it. White collar crime that's where all the big bucks are!!!!!

[frenchy]

you got that right merry .. when it comes to theft and fraud and all them other kinds of crimes the big leagues is where its at .. all these other hoodlums are mickey mouse .. why rob a bank and get away with 15 grand when you can sift money from a pension fund for 15 years and get 1.2 billion .. or insurance ?? oh man don't even get me goin on insurance .. i think they should treat insurance co's the same way they treated horse thieves and cattle robbers .. and i don't even care if they found out how they're breakin the law .. hang em anyway cause i know they're breakin the law somehow..   

[crestofwaves]

It was Madoff's hair--something about the careless haircut that probably cost him at least $400.

[Shadowman]

One of my favorite pictures, Ken Lay in chains.  As for magazines, over the years Charlie Manson, Bin Laden, Yasar Arafat, and much worse have appeared on covers. I would say Rolling Stone's ploy worked in this case and resulted in considerable publicity and people will be saving these for collectors items because of the controversy for better or worse.

That girl behind Ken Lay is looking kind of hot, she probably had no problem talking him into handcuffs. :-)