Results of the Forum Guidelines Discussion. - TBD2024-03-29T14:10:38Zhttp://teebeedee.ning.com/forum/topics/results-of-the-forum?commentId=1991841%3AComment%3A758542&feed=yes&xn_auth=noTo me this is just good commo…tag:teebeedee.ning.com,2010-01-22:1991841:Comment:7613572010-01-22T22:37:33.326Zblondie 11http://teebeedee.ning.com/profile/blondie11
To me this is just good common sense. I do not come to this site for anything other than clean fun. I like the people, and try not to ever hurt anyones feelings.
To me this is just good common sense. I do not come to this site for anything other than clean fun. I like the people, and try not to ever hurt anyones feelings. I personally like Chuck's ide…tag:teebeedee.ning.com,2010-01-22:1991841:Comment:7613002010-01-22T22:05:34.989ZDazzling Zoomer Gal Dianahttp://teebeedee.ning.com/profile/DazzlingZoomerGalDiana
I personally like Chuck's idea. <b>Love the submenus.</b> I am beginning to think a "suggestion group" may be a better way to go - <i>open to all</i>. Thus we can have a "yay or nay" survey structure for certain issues. A quorum would be all that would be needed to achieve majority consensus. We seem to be all over the place here, which lends itself to confusion.<br />
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In this manner - if there are problems, the group creator and moderators can take action. Set strict guidelines for the group, and…
I personally like Chuck's idea. <b>Love the submenus.</b> I am beginning to think a "suggestion group" may be a better way to go - <i>open to all</i>. Thus we can have a "yay or nay" survey structure for certain issues. A quorum would be all that would be needed to achieve majority consensus. We seem to be all over the place here, which lends itself to confusion.<br />
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In this manner - if there are problems, the group creator and moderators can take action. Set strict guidelines for the group, and enforce them when needed. Set up well defined categories. Have proper voting. Then perhaps we will get something done. It's a valiant effort here Robbie, but it's going to become even more cumbersome trying to sort who is in favour of what as the days continue and more contribute - rather randomly as it suits the person posting. Just the nature of the beast. Maricel, Thanks for the input…tag:teebeedee.ning.com,2010-01-22:1991841:Comment:7606872010-01-22T16:43:01.081ZCWO3ROBBIEhttp://teebeedee.ning.com/profile/CWO3ROBBIE
Maricel, Thanks for the input. Makes sense to me. I think we need to keep it as simple as possible while still being attractive. In a post on a prior page I got a little more specific. I'll look it up and reference it here.<br />
It's on page nine.
Maricel, Thanks for the input. Makes sense to me. I think we need to keep it as simple as possible while still being attractive. In a post on a prior page I got a little more specific. I'll look it up and reference it here.<br />
It's on page nine. Warning; AN EXAMPLE PRESENTED…tag:teebeedee.ning.com,2010-01-22:1991841:Comment:7606782010-01-22T16:36:31.177ZCWO3ROBBIEhttp://teebeedee.ning.com/profile/CWO3ROBBIE
Warning; AN EXAMPLE PRESENTED HERE MAY OFFEND SOME PRUDISH PEOPLE.<br />
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I can't speak for others, but what I think emerged from this discussion is not to eliminate anything. Just to organize it a little better so that people who Are not experienced with social networking sites, and /or did not have the time or inclanation to become that experienced, could navigate around without wadeing through a bunch of stuff they fInd offensive. I do not believe in censorship in an open forum, but I think the…
Warning; AN EXAMPLE PRESENTED HERE MAY OFFEND SOME PRUDISH PEOPLE.<br />
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I can't speak for others, but what I think emerged from this discussion is not to eliminate anything. Just to organize it a little better so that people who Are not experienced with social networking sites, and /or did not have the time or inclanation to become that experienced, could navigate around without wadeing through a bunch of stuff they fInd offensive. I do not believe in censorship in an open forum, but I think the naive should at least have a warning about what type of discussion they are entering. For example; If I am told up front that someone, or a group, is into S & M I won't enter. If I am not warned up front and find myself confronted with such actions, the results might not be pretty. In other words, I have no trouble with the fact that it exists and some people enjoy it, but I not only don't enjoy it, I don't even want to see it, on film or otherwise. However, since I do like sex, and not just the missionary type, if no warning flags are present, I may very well find myself somewhere I don't want to be. Can I just leave? Probably, but I would rather make that decision prior to the experience. I hope this doesn't offend anyone and if it does I think they probably better go over to Disney World. LoL! You are no slouch at thi…tag:teebeedee.ning.com,2010-01-22:1991841:Comment:7605702010-01-22T15:13:14.646ZDazzling Zoomer Gal Dianahttp://teebeedee.ning.com/profile/DazzlingZoomerGalDiana
LoL! You are no slouch at this Maricel.<br />
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I for one really like how Maricel has organized this. I do think we can take a cue from Zoomers.ca which is exactly the same premise (Zoomers is the brand name for members of CARP (Canada) which is the equiv. of AARP ) and have a strong message right up front. We don't have to copy it verbatim - but can tune our message to our audience including numbers 1-5 as above in bullet point. I notice #1 reads "SEX" - err . . . perhaps something like <i>No…</i>
LoL! You are no slouch at this Maricel.<br />
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I for one really like how Maricel has organized this. I do think we can take a cue from Zoomers.ca which is exactly the same premise (Zoomers is the brand name for members of CARP (Canada) which is the equiv. of AARP ) and have a strong message right up front. We don't have to copy it verbatim - but can tune our message to our audience including numbers 1-5 as above in bullet point. I notice #1 reads "SEX" - err . . . perhaps something like <i>No photographic pornography permitted</i> might suit.<br />
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I'm glad to see that someone else agrees that we should remove " A home for TBD members - "sorry" etc. - it is the <i>"sorry"</i> word that is off-putting by now. Perhaps :<b>" TBD on Ning ~ a place for the over 40 crowd to mingle and share experiences in order to thrive. Please join the Welcome Lounge ! "</b> would serve as a better badge and tell people straight away who we are. A <i>brand</i> needs a tag line, esp. on a badge. Right now we don't have one that carries a proper signature. It should be uplifting - so we are proud to put the badge on our own websites.<br />
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The "Welcome Lounge" Group does indeed need to be front and centre. Really like Maricel's idea if this is possible. At the very least it needs to be featured as a constant, and should have been by now. Just my opinion.... I think w…tag:teebeedee.ning.com,2010-01-22:1991841:Comment:7602412010-01-22T11:16:20.432ZMaricel Evascohttp://teebeedee.ning.com/profile/MaricelEvasco
Just my opinion.... I think we're starting to make a mountain out of a mole hill with regards to community guidelines and enforcing them. Keep them simple like in the classroom so there is no confusion and keep them enforced collectively. I think Robbie's categories should be sufficient:<br />
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1. SEX,<br />
2. BAD LANGUAGE<br />
3. PERSONAL ATTACKS ON CHARACTER.<br />
4. MAKING FUN OF BODY OR MENTAL ATTRIBUTES<br />
and mine to add:<br />
5. PERSONAL SOLICITATIONS<br />
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Note: If any of us or any other member see an infraction of the…
Just my opinion.... I think we're starting to make a mountain out of a mole hill with regards to community guidelines and enforcing them. Keep them simple like in the classroom so there is no confusion and keep them enforced collectively. I think Robbie's categories should be sufficient:<br />
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1. SEX,<br />
2. BAD LANGUAGE<br />
3. PERSONAL ATTACKS ON CHARACTER.<br />
4. MAKING FUN OF BODY OR MENTAL ATTRIBUTES<br />
and mine to add:<br />
5. PERSONAL SOLICITATIONS<br />
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Note: If any of us or any other member see an infraction of the guidelines<br />
being made, we should take the responsibility of copying and pasting the<br />
incriminating posts and PMing them to a moderator with a direct link to<br />
the the thread. The moderator can resolve the issue from there.<br />
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I don't think TBD NING needs to actively recruit outside newcomers.<br />
If we want to be proactive, we could do that ourselves,<br />
especially since many of us come from other social networking groups.<br />
If all active members commit to inviting two buddies, membership<br />
would increase significantly.<br />
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I think what we need to do is minimize the dissensions<br />
and make sure the threads flow beyond the 10th posting.<br />
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Suggestion for changes on the main page:<br />
<b>REMOVE</b>: "a home for TBD members. Sorry, no community/technical support except as provided by members and by help.ning.com" It sounds off-putting.<br />
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<b>REMOVE</b>: "latest activity" I personally find that section annoying.<br />
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Instead of that static showcase of member avatars, use a slider applet to feature those select members. You could include more member avatars that way (slider applet code: <a href="http://codebrain.com/" target="_blank">http://codebrain.com/</a> ) Make sure to slide it horizontally on top rather tan vertically on the side.<br />
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Open the the forum to 10 thread topics rather than just three in two columns of five.<br />
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Change the introductory line "Welcome to TBD, Maricel Evasco!<br />
Here are a few things you can do right now…" to make it more appealing.<br />
Ask Diana for suggestions. She's good at this sort of stuff. lol<br />
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The Welcome Lounge should be featured on top of all the other groups (It is a "group" in itself)<br />
and the avatar for this lounge should be rectangular to make the distinction "Ello everyone and just wish…tag:teebeedee.ning.com,2010-01-22:1991841:Comment:7598952010-01-22T04:52:32.369ZDazzling Zoomer Gal Dianahttp://teebeedee.ning.com/profile/DazzlingZoomerGalDiana
"Ello everyone and just wish to apologize for losing my temper the other night. I should have just turned the other cheek ( whimper whinge whine and wiggle ) but MysticalMaria wasn't paying any attention and if I had turned the other cheek - there was no one around to trust to spank my bottom!!! /;-> (Nobody does it better - you see ;)<br />
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<u>Questions:</u><br />
1. <b>Who actually moderates the Forum?</b> (This is not a Group venue - so who watches the posts?)<br />
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2. <b>Did all of this come about…</b>
"Ello everyone and just wish to apologize for losing my temper the other night. I should have just turned the other cheek ( whimper whinge whine and wiggle ) but MysticalMaria wasn't paying any attention and if I had turned the other cheek - there was no one around to trust to spank my bottom!!! /;-> (Nobody does it better - you see ;)<br />
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<u>Questions:</u><br />
1. <b>Who actually moderates the Forum?</b> (This is not a Group venue - so who watches the posts?)<br />
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2. <b>Did all of this come about because of the "Who is Beautiful Thread" ?</b><br />
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3. <b>If it did - why?</b> Was it because the content was deemed by some to be offensive? Was it because Red photo-shopped people in TBD without their permission ? (If so - this has to be stopped for sure - it's an invasion of peoples privacy.)<br />
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Which begs the question - once again, who moderates the Forum?<br />
<b><u>Re: Groups:</u></b><br />
I have a group as many know, and my guidelines are posted and I and my moderators enforce them.<br />
If one is in a group such as "Tough Questions & Answers" whereby the Creator states clearly that it's gonna get HOT so one had best be able to take as good as one gets - or stay out - that's clear too. In other words, <b><i>EVERY single group</i></b> <i><u>should have clear guidelines as outlined by the creator of said group.</u></i> The creators of the group along with their chosen moderators are in control of their group. Have a problem ? Go to it's creator or one of the moderators. Is it going to be a democracy ? Quiet possibly not. But - you will be listened to - and if one has a severe disagreement one can then take it to the main moderators for further adjudication. As far as posting new discussions goes concerning the Sex groups, it's a difficult call. <u>Perhaps some don't realize that their explicit discussion post makes the front page - and this should be advised up front in group guidelines.</u><br />
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The "Forum" is not a "group" so we need to know who is watching this venue - so that we know <u>exactly</u> who to turn to with issues.<br />
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The front page could be re-designed better. Featured groups never changes and it should (this actually is a good idea - keep it rotating, include all the groups so people can click on the one that interests them straight aways) .<br />
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I still think "Photo's" should be taken off the front page. Policing people to turn their uploads to private is impossible, so we are bound to see things that are pornographic because everyone differs as to what is porn versus art. OR - we do what "zooomer.ca " does - we make it clear on the front page that nudity is not permitted.<br />
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People who "arrive" here don't have a clue as to what we are about from the front page. Other Ning pages are quite clear about their site and the contents. <b>I refer you to <a href="http://www.zoomers.ca" target="_blank">www.zoomers.ca</a> as an example of a over 40 Ning site that navigates well, and has a clear mandate upfront and in place. We are an over 40's site - we should make this clear, along with three or four of the most critical guidelines. PLEASE have a look at the right side of the home page - where it says "Report Abuse" - kindly read it. We should take a lesson from my friends up North.</b><br />
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And Robin - if I may the "badge" needs an upgrade. The "Sorry ... etc.etc. is old now. It should say something about our "Brand" and not be apologizing - we do and are helping one another and have been for quite some time. People on Ning who find us thru Ning know what to do. Those whom we invite - we should help. Those who wander in - generally make their needs known. We are still "a brand" - and as long as Robin is a member along side of us, we owe it to her and those of her staff who joined us here to try and put a good foot forward. Time is a precious commodity and we ALL have a lot of time invested in this project.<br />
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I'm with Pru - I want feel good about this social site that I've devoted many many hours to - I am proud of how so many of us have stuck together through thick and thin and how we are still together trying to sort out the problems so that the majority feels comfortable.<br />
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Again - Thank you Robbie for being the project manager. I knew there was something ab…tag:teebeedee.ning.com,2010-01-22:1991841:Comment:7595402010-01-22T02:43:14.348Zlarry kremishttp://teebeedee.ning.com/profile/larrykremis
I knew there was something about you I liked Janice, other than raising a fine son.<br />
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<i>kinda should have been "kind of".</i> Please make a note of it.
I knew there was something about you I liked Janice, other than raising a fine son.<br />
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<i>kinda should have been "kind of".</i> Please make a note of it. Well said, Dear Lady. By the…tag:teebeedee.ning.com,2010-01-22:1991841:Comment:7595152010-01-22T02:37:02.640ZBob Stepphttp://teebeedee.ning.com/profile/BobStepp
Well said, Dear Lady. By the time i get through reading all the rules I really don't want to play any more...
Well said, Dear Lady. By the time i get through reading all the rules I really don't want to play any more... Bee is obviously an intellige…tag:teebeedee.ning.com,2010-01-22:1991841:Comment:7595022010-01-22T02:33:49.039Zlarry kremishttp://teebeedee.ning.com/profile/larrykremis
Bee is obviously an intelligent and insightful woman. Guess what, we didn't scare her away. Bee said "I liked this site almost as soon as I landed here, and I hope it doesn't change a whole lot." I trust her judgement, she's exactly the type of member I'd like to see more of here. This site isn't going to be for everybody, nor do we want it to be.<br />
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May I call you newbee? :)<br />
Nah! I read where your dad called you Bee, I like it.
Bee is obviously an intelligent and insightful woman. Guess what, we didn't scare her away. Bee said "I liked this site almost as soon as I landed here, and I hope it doesn't change a whole lot." I trust her judgement, she's exactly the type of member I'd like to see more of here. This site isn't going to be for everybody, nor do we want it to be.<br />
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May I call you newbee? :)<br />
Nah! I read where your dad called you Bee, I like it.