For Men Only - TBD2024-03-28T18:54:52Zhttp://teebeedee.ning.com/forum/topics/for-men-only?groupUrl=forwomenonly&commentId=1991841%3AComment%3A339429&groupId=1991841%3AGroup%3A99185&feed=yes&xn_auth=noP.S. I just needed someplace…tag:teebeedee.ning.com,2010-02-24:1991841:Comment:8338052010-02-24T18:47:35.839ZDazzling Zoomer Gal Dianahttp://teebeedee.ning.com/profile/DazzlingZoomerGalDiana
P.S. I just needed someplace to place my mood today about it all . . .<p style="text-align: left;"><img src="http://storage.ning.com/topology/rest/1.0/file/get/2166628100?profile=original" alt=""/></p>
<b>I've put this all to a membership vote as the latest subject further clarifies.</b>
P.S. I just needed someplace to place my mood today about it all . . .<p style="text-align: left;"><img src="http://storage.ning.com/topology/rest/1.0/file/get/2166628100?profile=original" alt=""/></p>
<b>I've put this all to a membership vote as the latest subject further clarifies.</b> Ah. Yes. I understand. Thank…tag:teebeedee.ning.com,2010-02-24:1991841:Comment:8329072010-02-24T03:54:58.343ZDazzling Zoomer Gal Dianahttp://teebeedee.ning.com/profile/DazzlingZoomerGalDiana
Ah. Yes. I understand. Thank you.<br />
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Let me bullet point this for absolute clarity.<br />
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1. A "For Men Only" group was in existence here on TBD. Kindly read through this discussion for an overview. I advised James in Guys & Gals about the group - it's demise, and suggested he start one a fresh. Please read through all the comments in response to his protest.<br />
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2. James entered our group and persisted upon posting even when he admitted that he had become aware that this group is for women only. He…
Ah. Yes. I understand. Thank you.<br />
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Let me bullet point this for absolute clarity.<br />
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1. A "For Men Only" group was in existence here on TBD. Kindly read through this discussion for an overview. I advised James in Guys & Gals about the group - it's demise, and suggested he start one a fresh. Please read through all the comments in response to his protest.<br />
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2. James entered our group and persisted upon posting even when he admitted that he had become aware that this group is for women only. He has been banned, his posts have been deleted, and any man found joining and posting will be dealt with in the same manner. This is my group. I call the shots. Thankfully I (also) have a group of mods who agree with me.<br />
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3. We had quite the discussion here about men, feminism and the potential of emasculation. I started it. It became heated. * I will return with the name of it. I welcome a revisit of it - I certainly can understand your point T&T - but . . .<br />
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4. And this leads me full circle. I have update my intro, and guidelines. To whit - men are not invited to participate here, but they are welcome to read whatever we have to say if it is of interest to them. If there is an issue or a subject they wish to discuss with us - they can do what James did (quite constructively) and that is post it in a group that they feel their issue will suit, and send me and my mods an invitation accordingly. We will respond with appropriate "reciprocity" - as MysticalMaria (who is one of our mods), along with LFF (another of my moderators) and I did.<br />
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There are groups for just about anything one can think of here on TBD. I will not sanction men having a voice in my group. I have strict guidelines posted that should preclude any ambiguity. Bottom line is I have to listen to men one way or another all day - every day.<br />
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<b>I want a place where we all can speak about things - whatever those things may be - without a male point of view</b>. This is that place here on TBD.<br />
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<b>It is not discriminatory. This is just a corner of sanctuary where we gals can re-group and shore up our sanity.</b><br />
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* A link to the discussion to which I refer: <a href="http://teebeedee.ning.com/group/forwomenonly/forum/topics/where-have-all-the-real-men" target="_blank">http://teebeedee.ning.com/group/forwomenonly/forum/topics/where-have-all-the-real-men</a><br />
Given that you have two sons you may find it interesting. I have a step-son - I can appreciate your concerns. Oh Zoomer I do not have a que…tag:teebeedee.ning.com,2010-02-24:1991841:Comment:8327482010-02-24T02:27:05.477ZThisAndThathttp://teebeedee.ning.com/profile/ThisAndThat
Oh Zoomer I do not have a question. Just saying that men need an exclusive group also and if they want to start one, we should just say it is ok. Sometimes I think feminism took things too far. I interpret what he is saying is that if men wanted a group of their own they would get ostracized for establishing one. I do NOT agree with how he goes about saying things and try to look past the in your face and non subtle way he barks a message.<br />
My two boys are having a daunting time getting into…
Oh Zoomer I do not have a question. Just saying that men need an exclusive group also and if they want to start one, we should just say it is ok. Sometimes I think feminism took things too far. I interpret what he is saying is that if men wanted a group of their own they would get ostracized for establishing one. I do NOT agree with how he goes about saying things and try to look past the in your face and non subtle way he barks a message.<br />
My two boys are having a daunting time getting into colleges with fantastic grades and athletic prowess. I guess I am a little raw from that due to the fact that I think tables turned and the pendulum swung from one side to the other without landing in the middle. As their mother I see and feel the anguish of being a young man in this world. Just my opinion. I see things from the male perspective sometimes when viewing the world through the eyes of my boys. God blessed me two boys for a reason. Sometimes we need to cut men a little slack that is all. What is valid about Peter's p…tag:teebeedee.ning.com,2010-02-24:1991841:Comment:8326082010-02-24T01:38:04.460ZDazzling Zoomer Gal Dianahttp://teebeedee.ning.com/profile/DazzlingZoomerGalDiana
What is valid about Peter's point please? Kindly clarify your question T&T. Thanks.
What is valid about Peter's point please? Kindly clarify your question T&T. Thanks. What did I miss? I am new her…tag:teebeedee.ning.com,2010-02-23:1991841:Comment:8322802010-02-23T23:13:00.060ZThisAndThathttp://teebeedee.ning.com/profile/ThisAndThat
What did I miss? I am new here so clue me in. I just read the postings in guys and gals connecting - it appears this Peter chap has a valid point. But I do not like the delivery means so this may put some people off. Having two boys changes my opinion drastically and I see what they are going through with college applications and financial aid.
What did I miss? I am new here so clue me in. I just read the postings in guys and gals connecting - it appears this Peter chap has a valid point. But I do not like the delivery means so this may put some people off. Having two boys changes my opinion drastically and I see what they are going through with college applications and financial aid. The issue of a "For Men Only"…tag:teebeedee.ning.com,2010-02-23:1991841:Comment:8311902010-02-23T04:54:45.242ZDazzling Zoomer Gal Dianahttp://teebeedee.ning.com/profile/DazzlingZoomerGalDiana
The issue of a "For Men Only" group has resurfaced as Peter James was unhappy about not being able to post here in FWO and for being banned today for doing so despite a warning and a request to leave our group.<br />
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The discussion started by Peter James is in Guys & Gals Connecting. Knowing what I now know as to the postings in George's group - (which were revealed by an angry member to several women here on TBD including myself) I have strongly suggested that if a FMO is started, it be an open…
The issue of a "For Men Only" group has resurfaced as Peter James was unhappy about not being able to post here in FWO and for being banned today for doing so despite a warning and a request to leave our group.<br />
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The discussion started by Peter James is in Guys & Gals Connecting. Knowing what I now know as to the postings in George's group - (which were revealed by an angry member to several women here on TBD including myself) I have strongly suggested that if a FMO is started, it be an open group. <b>Needless to say - we GET "For Men Only" and I can't <i>ever</i> imagine a women wanted to breach such a caveat !</b> AND . . . this one is from TS…tag:teebeedee.ning.com,2009-09-09:1991841:Comment:3539822009-09-09T02:52:35.734ZDazzling Zoomer Gal Dianahttp://teebeedee.ning.com/profile/DazzlingZoomerGalDiana
<b>AND . . . this one is from TSD - with love ;-D</b><p style="text-align:left"><img src="%3Cobject%20width="425"%20height="344""/><embed src="http://www.youtube.com/v/tND2j1ACQPc&hl=en&fs=1&" type="application/x-shockwave-flash" allowscriptaccess="never" width="425" height="344"></embed>
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<b>AND . . . this one is from TSD - with love ;-D</b><p style="text-align:left"><img src="%3Cobject%20width="425"%20height="344""/><embed src="http://www.youtube.com/v/tND2j1ACQPc&hl=en&fs=1&" type="application/x-shockwave-flash" allowscriptaccess="never" width="425" height="344"></embed>
' /></p> Hey Suuse - You mean it's REA…tag:teebeedee.ning.com,2009-09-09:1991841:Comment:3539622009-09-09T02:45:46.589ZDazzling Zoomer Gal Dianahttp://teebeedee.ning.com/profile/DazzlingZoomerGalDiana
<b>Hey Suuse - You mean it's REALLY time for them to GROW UP?!?</b><p style="text-align:left"><img src="%3Cobject%20width="425"%20height="344""/><embed src="http://www.youtube.com/v/wBIC8JTQMMQ&hl=en&fs=1&" type="application/x-shockwave-flash" allowscriptaccess="never" width="425" height="344"></embed>
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<b>Hey Suuse - You mean it's REALLY time for them to GROW UP?!?</b><p style="text-align:left"><img src="%3Cobject%20width="425"%20height="344""/><embed src="http://www.youtube.com/v/wBIC8JTQMMQ&hl=en&fs=1&" type="application/x-shockwave-flash" allowscriptaccess="never" width="425" height="344"></embed>
' /></p> I'm not frustrated by our exc…tag:teebeedee.ning.com,2009-09-08:1991841:Comment:3515622009-09-08T16:25:05.259ZSuusehttp://teebeedee.ning.com/profile/Suuse
I'm not frustrated by our exclusion, Wanda--I'm amused. Apart from Edwardian England being over and done, this is America, and we're in the third wave of feminism. Women have kept moving with the times as we live them--why can't men?<br />
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I have absolutely nothing to conceal from men (obviously!) about my opinions. Insofar as I do keep much of my private life out of cyberspace, that's not a sex/gender role issue, but a privacy issue. However, when it comes to sex/gender/lifestyle issues, I'm pretty…
I'm not frustrated by our exclusion, Wanda--I'm amused. Apart from Edwardian England being over and done, this is America, and we're in the third wave of feminism. Women have kept moving with the times as we live them--why can't men?<br />
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I have absolutely nothing to conceal from men (obviously!) about my opinions. Insofar as I do keep much of my private life out of cyberspace, that's not a sex/gender role issue, but a privacy issue. However, when it comes to sex/gender/lifestyle issues, I'm pretty much an open book.<br />
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<i>"Look, the reason we have open dialogue is to share ideas, build understanding, promote unity, and reach out to others. If we close off our group, we may as well stop pretending that we want equal rights and admit we only want dominance.</i>"<br />
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Isn't that what men are trying to maintain--their illusory dominance?<br />
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I married a feminist. My husband is certainly better versed and more political about women's issues than I. He's the co-chair of NOMAS: National Organization of Men Against Sexism. Then again, I'm the one who faces the world as a woman. He's not unaware of that. Now, I'm not for nuking the patriarchy. I prefer to dismantle it. I don't think it serves women to make martyrs of men. But I *do* want equal rights--and I think boys' clubs are both antiquated and, worse, a declaration of cowardice on the parts of the participants.<br />
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I don't particularly want a closed women's group--I think it's a sign of strength that this group is available to men who want to read it. But come on, boys--grow up. Come out of the club house. So just when are the boys goi…tag:teebeedee.ning.com,2009-09-07:1991841:Comment:3451812009-09-07T04:22:52.128ZSuusehttp://teebeedee.ning.com/profile/Suuse
So just when <u>are</u> the boys going to come down out of their clubhouse, give up their secret passwords, and forgo the extra-super-special handshakes and just say what they have to say? Or is that just toooooo scary a concept?<br />
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I see no need for a "For Women Only II" group--but as long as the boys continue to operate that way, perhaps we should have such a group. Turn-about being fair play and all, of course. ;)
So just when <u>are</u> the boys going to come down out of their clubhouse, give up their secret passwords, and forgo the extra-super-special handshakes and just say what they have to say? Or is that just toooooo scary a concept?<br />
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I see no need for a "For Women Only II" group--but as long as the boys continue to operate that way, perhaps we should have such a group. Turn-about being fair play and all, of course. ;)