difficult subjects - TBD2024-03-29T15:36:44Zhttp://teebeedee.ning.com/forum/topics/difficult-subjects?groupUrl=haikusenryu&commentId=1991841%3AComment%3A143064&groupId=1991841%3AGroup%3A1209&feed=yes&xn_auth=noYou stupefy me...
to casually…tag:teebeedee.ning.com,2009-07-29:1991841:Comment:1768482009-07-29T10:39:56.287Zjaki_64http://teebeedee.ning.com/profile/jaki_64
You stupefy me...<br />
to casually throw it<br />
all away like that!
You stupefy me...<br />
to casually throw it<br />
all away like that! The elusive high,
the pursuit…tag:teebeedee.ning.com,2009-07-24:1991841:Comment:1518862009-07-24T14:07:14.922Zjaki_64http://teebeedee.ning.com/profile/jaki_64
The elusive high,<br />
the pursuit of selfishness.<br />
These things are toxic!
The elusive high,<br />
the pursuit of selfishness.<br />
These things are toxic! Dreaming, dreaming you
still…tag:teebeedee.ning.com,2009-07-24:1991841:Comment:1518732009-07-24T14:03:43.052Zjaki_64http://teebeedee.ning.com/profile/jaki_64
Dreaming, dreaming you<br />
still are alive and we chat,<br />
aimlessly, old friend.<br />
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This one is for my college buddy, who passed away 2 years ago. I thought, it was only one year, but it was confirmed by another mutual friend's diary entry to be 2 whole years ago....
Dreaming, dreaming you<br />
still are alive and we chat,<br />
aimlessly, old friend.<br />
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This one is for my college buddy, who passed away 2 years ago. I thought, it was only one year, but it was confirmed by another mutual friend's diary entry to be 2 whole years ago.... confusion abounds
system ridd…tag:teebeedee.ning.com,2009-07-23:1991841:Comment:1443012009-07-23T01:34:45.798Zmetub4http://teebeedee.ning.com/profile/metub4
confusion abounds<br />
system riddled with chaos<br />
elusive answers
confusion abounds<br />
system riddled with chaos<br />
elusive answers Sure, please do. I have had t…tag:teebeedee.ning.com,2009-07-22:1991841:Comment:1435352009-07-22T23:36:09.163Zjaki_64http://teebeedee.ning.com/profile/jaki_64
Sure, please do. I have had to learn all about this in the past. Thing is, people don't tend to learn from other people's mistakes. They have to do the same fool things!<br />
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Yes, most programs keep them only long enough to detox. She will not have been sober long enough when she gets out. unless of course she is horrified at what she sees there, and is somehow "reformed" by such a negative culture.<br />
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She was not raised for this sort of thing!<br />
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Oh, girl friend, why you?<br />
Why any of us really...<br />
My…
Sure, please do. I have had to learn all about this in the past. Thing is, people don't tend to learn from other people's mistakes. They have to do the same fool things!<br />
<br />
Yes, most programs keep them only long enough to detox. She will not have been sober long enough when she gets out. unless of course she is horrified at what she sees there, and is somehow "reformed" by such a negative culture.<br />
<br />
She was not raised for this sort of thing!<br />
<br />
Oh, girl friend, why you?<br />
Why any of us really...<br />
My heart grieves for you. Oh Brine, you have that magic…tag:teebeedee.ning.com,2009-07-22:1991841:Comment:1435162009-07-22T23:32:45.689Zjaki_64http://teebeedee.ning.com/profile/jaki_64
Oh Brine, you have that magic with words.....
Oh Brine, you have that magic with words..... I'm in the "I don't understan…tag:teebeedee.ning.com,2009-07-22:1991841:Comment:1430642009-07-22T22:22:00.391ZAngharadhttp://teebeedee.ning.com/profile/Angharad
I'm in the "I don't understand" place now.<br />
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standing straight and tall<br />
the oak weathers countless storms<br />
then becomes willow
I'm in the "I don't understand" place now.<br />
<br />
standing straight and tall<br />
the oak weathers countless storms<br />
then becomes willow Yes. Without knowing her (and…tag:teebeedee.ning.com,2009-07-22:1991841:Comment:1408982009-07-22T12:48:52.445ZAngharadhttp://teebeedee.ning.com/profile/Angharad
Yes. Without knowing her (and assuming that she hurt no one while DUI), I agree that rehab is a better place than jail. My only problem with so many rehab set-ups, particularly those administered by a government agency, is that 2 weeks seems to be the maximum stay. Depending on the length and severity of her addiction, and several other factors, 2 weeks (or a month) isn't even enough to scratch the surface.<br />
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I agree. If the BF is abetting her, then it would be best that they be apart. It's…
Yes. Without knowing her (and assuming that she hurt no one while DUI), I agree that rehab is a better place than jail. My only problem with so many rehab set-ups, particularly those administered by a government agency, is that 2 weeks seems to be the maximum stay. Depending on the length and severity of her addiction, and several other factors, 2 weeks (or a month) isn't even enough to scratch the surface.<br />
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I agree. If the BF is abetting her, then it would be best that they be apart. It's ideal when an addict can return to a different situation than they left; but that so infrequently happens.<br />
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If you intend to be part of her life when she returns, may I suggest Alanon. It's a place to listen and learn from others dealing with addicts...and to share your feelings and experiences in a safe environment. I found it very helpful.<br />
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I'm going to write to you in private. Let's talk more about this...<br />
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watching helplessly<br />
seeing our love slip away<br />
drowned in booze and pills<br />
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creative genius<br />
slow descent into madness<br />
a great artist lost Absolutely. Poetry, to me, is…tag:teebeedee.ning.com,2009-07-22:1991841:Comment:1402832009-07-22T10:32:18.414Zjaki_64http://teebeedee.ning.com/profile/jaki_64
Absolutely. Poetry, to me, is about expressing the things that really affect us on a personal level. Sometimes they are more painful, or conflicting, than funny or amusing. Being human is what this trip is all about. Hopefully, we are humane to each other along the way. Maybe some people will choose to write something that comes from difficult emotions here.<br />
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My only advice,<br />
"Don't bring home any new friends."<br />
She got 30 days.<br />
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My only hope is,<br />
that she will detox... about<br />
7 to 10…
Absolutely. Poetry, to me, is about expressing the things that really affect us on a personal level. Sometimes they are more painful, or conflicting, than funny or amusing. Being human is what this trip is all about. Hopefully, we are humane to each other along the way. Maybe some people will choose to write something that comes from difficult emotions here.<br />
<br />
My only advice,<br />
"Don't bring home any new friends."<br />
She got 30 days.<br />
<br />
My only hope is,<br />
that she will detox... about<br />
7 to 10 days...<br />
<br />
...end up in a nice, safe, warm rehab center where there are no mind-altering pills and certainly no booze. Jails are not equipped to deal with drug and alcohol withdrawal. I am really pulling for rehab, she might have a chance at having a REAL life instead of just existing.<br />
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The co-dependent BF needs to hit the bricks, too. He will bring her right back in to Hell. He encourages bad behaviors. shocking twists and turns
une…tag:teebeedee.ning.com,2009-07-21:1991841:Comment:1351952009-07-21T12:27:04.996ZAngharadhttp://teebeedee.ning.com/profile/Angharad
shocking twists and turns<br />
unexpected betrayals<br />
wounds that never heal<br />
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I love your candor, jaki...I especially admire your willingness to share your ambivalence about your friend's situation: "I wish her well, but I would wager I'll not be on the visitor's line." Yes. Very difficult.<br />
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We care and support, and yet it doesn't ensure anything. We love, but while our love can create an environment where change is possible, there is no guarantee of change. In fact, I've learned that the cliche, "I…
shocking twists and turns<br />
unexpected betrayals<br />
wounds that never heal<br />
<br />
I love your candor, jaki...I especially admire your willingness to share your ambivalence about your friend's situation: "I wish her well, but I would wager I'll not be on the visitor's line." Yes. Very difficult.<br />
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We care and support, and yet it doesn't ensure anything. We love, but while our love can create an environment where change is possible, there is no guarantee of change. In fact, I've learned that the cliche, "I can only change myself," is really an axiom. Of course you, and most grownups, know this from experience.<br />
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Being human is tough.