CONTROL!!! - TBD2024-03-29T12:05:11Zhttp://teebeedee.ning.com/forum/topics/control-1?commentId=1991841%3AComment%3A599059&feed=yes&xn_auth=noIt is isn't it! Well done Sla…tag:teebeedee.ning.com,2009-11-21:1991841:Comment:5990592009-11-21T07:05:28.447ZDazzling Zoomer Gal Dianahttp://teebeedee.ning.com/profile/DazzlingZoomerGalDiana
It is isn't it! Well done Slayer darling!
It is isn't it! Well done Slayer darling! Fascinating. I shall have to…tag:teebeedee.ning.com,2009-11-21:1991841:Comment:5990572009-11-21T07:04:44.679ZDazzling Zoomer Gal Dianahttp://teebeedee.ning.com/profile/DazzlingZoomerGalDiana
Fascinating. I shall have to think about this. Wonderful food for thought Robbie!<br />
Off the top of my wee tired noggin :<br />
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#1 To a greater or lesser degree our whole life is controlled, for we are subject to external influences from the get go, and after death, we are still (usually) fussed over. Not forgetting that our whole life is devoted to caring for this heavy sack of water that we lug about with us from cradle to grave that makes demands upon us that we simply can not ignore (for long)…
Fascinating. I shall have to think about this. Wonderful food for thought Robbie!<br />
Off the top of my wee tired noggin :<br />
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#1 To a greater or lesser degree our whole life is controlled, for we are subject to external influences from the get go, and after death, we are still (usually) fussed over. Not forgetting that our whole life is devoted to caring for this heavy sack of water that we lug about with us from cradle to grave that makes demands upon us that we simply can not ignore (for long) without peril.<br />
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#2. We do. Each and every one of us. Singularly and (quite often like sheep or lemmings) collectively.<br />
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#3. A re-read of William Golding's masterpiece "The Lord of the Flies" sorts this question nicely.<br />
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#4. I'm at my personal limit right about now. Privacy is an illusion. <i>There is none.</i> Thankfully - I'm on my way out - not in - so unless it gets much worse ( I'm hoping things stay quasi status quo) I'll abide politely. Albeit I'm gritting and gnashing my teeth and privately railing at the intrusions and invasions of privacy that purport to save our from ourselves and other nefarious "others' commonly called "them".<br />
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Have you heard the latest? Credit card companies and the banksters have teamed up to exam your purchases with a fine tooth comb. Did you use to shop at Whole Foods - but now you are shopping exclusively (or more often ) at Food Lion? WELL! There goes your credit rating and line of credit. Apparently these characters are watching one's shopping activity and making draconian decisions about your changes in lifestyle accordingly. Cash? But of course. But you know - "they" are trying to do away with the cash thing. And debit card? Every purchase is on your bank statement, shared with your creditors.<br />
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And then there is the infra red satellite gizmo - which sends a lovely picture to whomever might be interested of you spooning your beloved tonight. Or not. And that pleasant fellow across the street? You should SEE his listening equipment - he can hear you fart under the covers me dear.<br />
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No where to run to - no where to hide.<br />
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But as long as I can still say NO - and walk away with my life - I'm in North America, and am (still) a very lucky duck. Yeh, but i've had some QC peo…tag:teebeedee.ning.com,2009-11-21:1991841:Comment:5988742009-11-21T05:23:04.134ZCWO3ROBBIEhttp://teebeedee.ning.com/profile/CWO3ROBBIE
Yeh, but i've had some QC people work for me that were kind of unworldly.<br />
I'm not sure which planet they came from, but I'm sure it was a very controlled place.
Yeh, but i've had some QC people work for me that were kind of unworldly.<br />
I'm not sure which planet they came from, but I'm sure it was a very controlled place. I agree with this 100%---you…tag:teebeedee.ning.com,2009-11-21:1991841:Comment:5985392009-11-21T03:25:29.759Zblondie 11http://teebeedee.ning.com/profile/blondie11
I agree with this 100%---you have to allow someone to control you--ain't gonna happen to this lady--no---no
I agree with this 100%---you have to allow someone to control you--ain't gonna happen to this lady--no---no TSD, Great Song. I love it.tag:teebeedee.ning.com,2009-11-21:1991841:Comment:5984302009-11-21T02:45:03.566ZCWO3ROBBIEhttp://teebeedee.ning.com/profile/CWO3ROBBIE
TSD, Great Song. I love it.
TSD, Great Song. I love it. Quote;
"I would take stricter…tag:teebeedee.ning.com,2009-11-21:1991841:Comment:5984172009-11-21T02:39:02.920ZCWO3ROBBIEhttp://teebeedee.ning.com/profile/CWO3ROBBIE
Quote;<br />
"I would take stricter domestic security measures over another generation of our finest young people going to Afghanistan and coming home broken. If they come home alive".<br />
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Merry, think I understand what you are saying. I agree with you to a point. The tricky part is; deciding where to set the degree of strictness. Do we stop all entry to our country? Do we let only white Angelo Saxons in? Do we decide on a small group of countries with which to allow travel? I've never worried about my…
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"I would take stricter domestic security measures over another generation of our finest young people going to Afghanistan and coming home broken. If they come home alive".<br />
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Merry, think I understand what you are saying. I agree with you to a point. The tricky part is; deciding where to set the degree of strictness. Do we stop all entry to our country? Do we let only white Angelo Saxons in? Do we decide on a small group of countries with which to allow travel? I've never worried about my phonecalls or credit or background check either. How could I? I spent a significant part of my life working with military intelligence and the other governmental intelligence agencies. But, that was because I wanted to do that. I will say that there are some real psychologically twisted people in the intelligence and security areas of our government. I have personally known a few in the investigative fields who had the mindset; If you hadn't done something wrong, we wouldn't be monitoring you. I was friends for a number of years with an agent who administered the lie detector tests. His attitude was, "If the bastard wasn't gulity, he wouldn't be here to be tested" Anyway, I got kind of off or subject there.<br />
I disagree with the idea that control is an illusion. Control is real. There are degrees of control, and they are very real. The people being held at Gitmo are under our control. How many suicides have taken place there? I don't know, do you? I'm sure someone has those figures but as far as I know they haven't been made public. And would you believe them if they were? I would have to say that if someone has you in a straight jacket tied to a bed or a wall they pretty much have control over you. Through psycohological manipulation they can even control what you think. If you don't think that is true, would you be willing to submit yourself to the situation to find out. Many of our military and intelligence agency people go through such situations in order to learn how to resist interrogation. But, I have not personally met anyone who believed that they could resist torture indefinitely. Ask John McCain. Who BTW I consider one of the great military heros. Not because of what he did in military actions, but because of what he was able to withstand in captivity. I doubt that one in a million of us could go through what he did and achieve what he has since. Now, control in the context of marrage or relationships is a different matter. There, I agree that control is an illusion. In day to day life you give to others some degree of control over your actions. In normal(if there is a normal when dealing with humans)human interactions it is the controlee who determines the amount of control transfered, not the controler. So in many situations control is an illusion. But that is not an absolute. The government can control how much money they give me. They can control how much of that they let me keep, but they can not totally control what I do with it. Or how much I acquire from other sources.<br />
The moderators can control how much of this diatribe you will have access too. They probably coould control how much of it I can write on this site. But, they have no control over what I write and send you by e-mail. Control is a fascinating subject, but this post probably should be in KarenSme's Boring Discussion. I could probably write on this subject until the cows come home. But i think I'll shut up for now. um the Nov 2003 issue of Natl…tag:teebeedee.ning.com,2009-11-20:1991841:Comment:5963682009-11-20T12:25:56.367ZMerryhttp://teebeedee.ning.com/profile/merry
um the Nov 2003 issue of Natl Geographic had an article on high tech surveilance that I thought pretty interesting.
um the Nov 2003 issue of Natl Geographic had an article on high tech surveilance that I thought pretty interesting. 21st Century Digital Boy
I c…tag:teebeedee.ning.com,2009-11-20:1991841:Comment:5963632009-11-20T12:23:03.289ZSlayer Dughttp://teebeedee.ning.com/profile/SlayerDug
21st Century Digital Boy<br />
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I can't believe it, the way you look sometimes<br />
Like a trampled flag on a city street, oh yeah<br />
And I don't want it, the things you're offering me<br />
Symbolized bar code, quick ID, oh yeah<br />
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(CHORUS):<br />
See I'm a 21st century digital boy<br />
I don't know how to read but I've got a lot of toys<br />
My daddy's a lazy middle class intellectual<br />
My mommy's on Valium, so ineffectual<br />
Ain't life a mystery?<br />
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I can't explain it, the things you're saying to me<br />
It's going yayayayayayaya, oh…
21st Century Digital Boy<br />
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I can't believe it, the way you look sometimes<br />
Like a trampled flag on a city street, oh yeah<br />
And I don't want it, the things you're offering me<br />
Symbolized bar code, quick ID, oh yeah<br />
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(CHORUS):<br />
See I'm a 21st century digital boy<br />
I don't know how to read but I've got a lot of toys<br />
My daddy's a lazy middle class intellectual<br />
My mommy's on Valium, so ineffectual<br />
Ain't life a mystery?<br />
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I can't explain it, the things you're saying to me<br />
It's going yayayayayayaya, oh yeah<br />
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(Chorus)<br />
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Tried to tell you about no control<br />
But now I really don't know<br />
And then you told me how bad you had to suffer<br />
Is that really all you have to offer?<br />
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Solo<br />
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(Chorus)<br />
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Cat's foot, iron claw<br />
Neurosurgeon, scream for more<br />
Innocence raped with napalm fire<br />
Everything I want, I really need.<br />
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21st century schizoid boy<br />
21st century video boy<br />
21st century digital boy... The version that included the…tag:teebeedee.ning.com,2009-11-20:1991841:Comment:5963592009-11-20T12:17:59.081ZSlayer Dughttp://teebeedee.ning.com/profile/SlayerDug
The version that included the lyrics to this song has been removed. Here's the song with the lyrics to…
The version that included the lyrics to this song has been removed. Here's the song with the lyrics to follow.<br />
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Of course , it all depends on what a reasonable person would do in any given situation. As far as laws are concerned. Sometimes life itself has its own consequences that teach us how much control to hand over or keep. I am a shopaholic. So I go to thriftstores a lot to minimize the impact on our budget while still being able to enjoy a dopamine rush which I find helpful with managing my PTSD.<br />
The wiser our choices are, the more freedom we have in theory. There's the freedom to drink and drive.…
Of course , it all depends on what a reasonable person would do in any given situation. As far as laws are concerned. Sometimes life itself has its own consequences that teach us how much control to hand over or keep. I am a shopaholic. So I go to thriftstores a lot to minimize the impact on our budget while still being able to enjoy a dopamine rush which I find helpful with managing my PTSD.<br />
The wiser our choices are, the more freedom we have in theory. There's the freedom to drink and drive. And the right to bear arms. There is no quicker way to lose your freedom then to exercise poor judgement in these areas and rightly so.<br />
I love having the freedom to express myself in a non traditional format. If someone has thought of something new because of that. Another dopamine rush for me.<br />
Personaly I could care less if my phonecalls are sifted through for certain words or phrases or someone runs a background check on my character. It probably eliminates some paranoia about my motives with regard to my community. I'm at peace for the most part with things and people that I have no control over. I would take stricter domestic security measures over another generation of our finest young people going to Afghanistan and coming home broken. If they come home alive.